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Freeoples Thread 303

Posted on 04/23/2002 7:04:16 PM PDT by Mo1

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To: Servant of the Nine
I agree that it is only a few percent of priests that are pedophiles, but the percentage is much higher than in regular teachers or other religions as has been shown in Boston, and how do you know about any particular priest?

And how do I know what the numbers are for regular teachers .. the media does not report on it .. and we all know that teachers are being passed from one school to another ..

However, this does not excuse the church and their behavior and yes they need to clean house big time and they will because it is in their face and there is no avoiding it

621 posted on 04/26/2002 5:46:35 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: Mo1
You do a great job defending your church and your children.
622 posted on 04/26/2002 5:49:34 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: celtic gal
OMG! That was BAD! Hehehe.
623 posted on 04/26/2002 5:50:59 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: Mo1
Hollywood portrays all southern people to be dumb, stupid and slow

HEY!

624 posted on 04/26/2002 5:58:05 AM PDT by catpuppy
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To: Mo1
So alot of the good will by non-catholics towards catholics is bullshit


So you DID know that many Baptist churches teach that the Catholic Church is 'The Great Whore of the Revelations'?????

I don't agree, but that IS what I was taught.

Strangely enough, we are also taught that the Jews are our ideological brethren, who's safety is second only to our own. And that they should be defended by us Christians, NO MATTER WHAT.

I DO agree with that one, much to Swervie's chagrin. :-)

625 posted on 04/26/2002 6:10:08 AM PDT by gratefulwharffratt
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To: Mo1
Now I could listen, and believe everything Hollywood says, or I can actually meet folks from the South and realize for myself that in fact, the MAJORITY ALL of the Southern folks are funny, smart, kind and VERY intelligent people.


I corrected your spelling of 'all' for you. I am sure it was a minor oversight.

626 posted on 04/26/2002 6:13:22 AM PDT by gratefulwharffratt
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To: catpuppy
HEY!

They think we are all related to Jimmey Carter

So9

627 posted on 04/26/2002 6:13:56 AM PDT by Servant of the Nine
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To: gratefulwharffratt
many Baptist churches

Many? Maybe a crackpot or two but many? I'd like to see a source for that one.

628 posted on 04/26/2002 6:15:52 AM PDT by catpuppy
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To: Servant of the Nine
They think we are all related to Jimmy Carter

That one really hurt, Swerve.

629 posted on 04/26/2002 6:18:01 AM PDT by catpuppy
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To: gratefulwharffratt
Strangely enough, we are also taught that the Jews are our ideological brethren, who's safety is second only to our own. And that they should be defended by us Christians, NO MATTER WHAT.

I DO agree with that one, much to Swervie's chagrin. :-)

I am not anti-Jewish, I am anti-Zionist. I would be happy to see all Israelis move here and be granted imediate citizenship, but I am fed up with israel.

So9

630 posted on 04/26/2002 6:22:55 AM PDT by Servant of the Nine
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To: catpuppy
Maybe a crackpot or two but many? I'd like to see a source for that one.


Christian doctrine and discussions of it, are not real big on the web yet, but I still get 1500+ matches when searching for 'Catholic' + 'Great whore of Revelations.'

Here

631 posted on 04/26/2002 6:23:03 AM PDT by gratefulwharffratt
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To: Servant of the Nine
I am not anti-Jewish, I am anti-Zionist. I would be happy to see all Israelis move here and be granted imediate citizenship, but I am fed up with israel.


Why should the Jews be forced to give up THEIR ancestral homelands, which are a tiny sliver of land, compared to the rest of the Middle East which is entirely conquered settled by Islamic maniacs??

632 posted on 04/26/2002 6:26:15 AM PDT by gratefulwharffratt
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To: catpuppy
Hollywood portrays all southern people to be dumb, stupid and slow
HEY!

HEY .. did you read the part of what I think of the southern folks .. SMOOCHES

633 posted on 04/26/2002 6:30:57 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: gratefulwharffratt
So you DID know that many Baptist churches teach that the Catholic Church is 'The Great Whore of the Revelations'?????

No I didn't know that ..

634 posted on 04/26/2002 6:32:07 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: Mo1
It seems there is plenty of blame to go around as far as the Catholic church is concerned. While I understand celibacy in the sense of spirituality, I have often thought that it should be an option and not a requirement. There are interesting argumernts on both sides of the issue. Our priests can marry in the Episcopal church and some of the priests I have known were totally committed to a life of holiness. The argument can be made that because the church is supposed to be the bride of Christ and because marriage is a type of the relationship between Christ and the church and therefore the closest we can get to God this side of heaven, that the most "spiritual" state that can be attained to in this life is marriage.

There is also the mentality that says that because priests are frequently in the position of counseling people on marriage and sexual issues, that they are likely to be more effective if it is something they know something about personally. This is generally true regardning most issues of life. Of course I am aware that those who embrace celibacy do so with the idea that the one who has a wife is concerned with the things of the world and how to please his wife whereas one who is celibate is not distracted by the things of the world and is therefore more concerned with the things of God and how to please Him. While this is a scriptural "definition" I think it important to recognize that it was Paul's idea of a godly life and while Paul was a powerful voice for God, he seems to have had a problem with women. Peter, on the other hand, who is proclaimed by the church as the first "father" or pope and for whom the church in Rome is named, WAS married.

Either way you look at it, it was not Jesus who taught celibacy. There is a fundamental difference between the Roman Catholic church and other Christian churches which I believe is at the root of this issue. The RC church holds the word of the pope as co-equal with the scriptures and a sort of ongoing source of revelation. Other churches hold that the revealed word of God is the final word, and while priests and ministers and other spiritual leaders have a place in the life of the church, no man has authority equal to that of God and "woe to any who would add to or take away from" God's word.

Many would say that Jesus Himself was celibate and that is true, but when you consider that God's people, which would later come to be called His church, was betrothed to Christ as a bride, then marriage in the traditional sense for Jesus would have made Him unfaithful to His commitment. The scriptures tell men to love their wives as Christ loved the church and gave Himself for her. Christ was in every way a fulfillment of the scriptures and while He was in all ways like us except that He was without sin, in ways of the flesh He was set apart from us as well that the scriptures might be fulfilled.

635 posted on 04/26/2002 6:32:46 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: gratefulwharffratt
I corrected your spelling of 'all' for you. I am sure it was a minor oversight.

No is was NOT and oversight .. see Swervies comment about Jimmy Carter

BUT to show that I am fair and balanced .. we have some stupid yankees also .. Can you say .. Uncle Teddy Kennedy

636 posted on 04/26/2002 6:34:17 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: gratefulwharffratt
I was taught that the whore of Revelation referred to the Catholic church leadership (city of seven hills is Rome) - and I was also taught that the Jews are not our brethren and no way are we to be yoked with them in marriage as long as they deny Christ, and that America is the new Jerusalem and Israel is unimportant today except as a political ally to the U.S.
There are a lot more details, but I don't want to type them now.
Then I had another pastor/teacher who taught that St John's Revelation has already been fulfilled for the most part in the days of the Roman Empire and its fall.
637 posted on 04/26/2002 6:35:07 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Mo1
No I didn't know that ..


And all this time, you thought I was against you because you were a Yanqui.

:-)

638 posted on 04/26/2002 6:36:22 AM PDT by gratefulwharffratt
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To: gratefulwharffratt
Why should the Jews be forced to give up THEIR ancestral homelands, which are a tiny sliver of land, compared to the rest of the Middle East which is entirely conquered settled by Islamic maniacs??

Why should American Indians be forced to give up their ancestral homelands in North Carolina? Because they were defeated in battle and lost them. The same with the Israelis. Whether you set the loss as the conquest by Alexander the Great or the Destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans, The Jews lost and that has not been their homeland for about 2,000 years. They have no more valid claim on that land than Native Americans do on your family farm.

So9

639 posted on 04/26/2002 6:36:28 AM PDT by Servant of the Nine
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To: gratefulwharffratt
1500+ matches

I don't want to argue the point but many if not most of those 1500+ matches are posts on the subject by various anti-Catholic people/groups, few of which are associated with a Baptist church. While I did not review the entire list, I saw no Baptist church mentioned as a source. And as you know, one can get 1500+ matches on almost any subject.

640 posted on 04/26/2002 6:40:53 AM PDT by catpuppy
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