Posted on 09/10/2026 7:48:33 AM PDT by Red Badger
The pilots of the Amazon cargo plane that crashed in Miami, killing five people, were issued multiple warnings for flying “too low” to the ground — and acknowledged they were going “too fast” before they overshot the runway, officials said.
The National Transit Safety Board (NTSB) released transcripts from the Boeing 767’s cockpit voice recorder Wednesday that revealed one of the two pilots made a remark about the plane’s high rate of speed about 100 seconds before they hit the ground.
“The other pilot made additional comments regarding the aircraft’s excessive speed throughout the remainder of the recording. There was not a consistent verbal response to the comments about speed,” the NTSB said
The autopilot appears to have disconnected seconds later, according to the recording, and a “too low terrain” callout was issued electronically four times.
The recording then captured the plane landing on the runway and ”sounds similar to the aircraft departing the paved surface.”
Prime Air flight 7598 crashed on the runway at Miami International Airport around 2 p.m. Sunday before plowing into multiple vehicles and bursting into flames, officials said.
Five people died in the incident. Five others were injured, including the pilots, identified Tuesday as Felipe Silva Molina, 37, and Joseph Carroll, 55.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
Yes, the 76 does have an ILS, and the ILS was operational at the time.
Capt. Rex Kramer: “Striker, you’re coming in too fast!”
Ted Striker: “I know, I know!”
Elaine: “He knows, he knows!”
The 55-year-old captain, Joseph Carroll, received his type rating in the 767 in May 2026. First officer Jaime Felipe Silva Molina received his type rating in April 2025.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21_Air_Flight_7598
The crew should have used a landing data card to set v-speeds for their flap settings and used that data exactly. Landing a wide body with a quartering 20kt tail wind is asking for trouble unless you have a lot of wide body experience.
Yep.
This was a Charlie Foxtrot all the way around. See this new update from Captain Steeeve who flew 23 years on this exact type (Boeing 767-300) and he knew from the get-go this was no good from the point we see that plane coming in.
Captain Steeeve said that, in his opinion, both pilots were low-time in that airframe.
I looked like he was diving for the deck.
Yes ... My impression as well. That approach was already buggered when the video starts. It was already past time to abort the landing and try again.
Captain Steve had an excellent analysis the other day.
Came in too hot, too fast. Should have got the plane down on the first 1/3 of the runway.
Speed was too high, don’t know why. They may have been getting a tail wind from a micro burst in those dark clouds somewhere behind them.
It was the shortest runway available, but still adequate.
Pilot dove for the deck, flared the plane too high, floated down the runway, losing thousands of feet of available.
The touchdown wasnose gear first. Very bad technique. He was lucky that the plane didn’t start bouncing.
Both main mounts need to be on the runway for the spoilers to deploy to slow the plane down and make the brakes work better, but they went several thousand more feet down the runway with one of the main mounts still dangling in the air, so the spoilers never deployed.
As Captain Steve put it, a lot of holes in that Swiss cheese had to lineup for that accident to occur, and they all lined up.
As we used to say in the Air Force, “It’s much better to die than look bad”...
THAT is the best picture - illustration - of exactly where that plane ended up. Unable to get the full picture/actual from TV reports. Thanks.
That’s why I chose it. There are many at the site................
one is known to be a foreigner based on his HEAVY accent that can be heard on published audio of the flight’s conversations with the airport control tower ...
That is very low hour.
You know the landing is fubar way before crossing the threshold. He was in denial. Copilot made no recommendation?
There are cultures in which people simply do not follow instructions.
"...As we used to say in the Air Force, “It’s much better to die than look bad”..."
Now, I am Navy, but I never heard that, but...I can absolutely see that mindset! And by the way-thank you for your service, Zoomie...:)
According to the CVR readout it is likely the FO suggested they were too fast, but it fell on deaf ears. That said the info released by the NTSB didn't confirm who was flying the aircraft.
Not the tower's job to order a go-around.
But I’ve not read flight hours on type.
I’ve been on one go-around. It was in Pisa, Italy in 1977. Huge fog bank hanging over the ground. Smokestacks sticking up through the fog, probably 500 ft stacks. We were flying on top of the fog layer forever. Finally entered the thick fog and a few moments later came out of the bottom. We missed the runway by 100-200 meters off to the right! Ground was probably 50 meters below us. Scared the sh!t out of me.
We went around and, on the same long descent through the fog, I figured I was a goner. If he couldn’t find the runway the first time, how was he going to find it this time? But we descended through the bottom of the fog and the runway was right below us. Everybody cheered.
Almost 50 years ago and I remember it like yesterday.
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