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Two American [Airlines] planes with same callsign end up on same frequency, heading straight for one another
MSN ^ | 08/13/2026 | Ben Schlappig

Posted on 08/14/2026 1:04:46 PM PDT by BenLurkin

Every flight has a callsign that's used with air traffic control, and for commercial aircraft, that's generally going to be the generic airline callsign plus the flight number. Callsigns are of course unique to a particular flight, because that's the way that air traffic control communicates with pilots.

That brings us to what happened very late last night (Thursday, August 13, 2026), in Phoenix. AA2482 is a flight number used by American between Chicago (ORD) and Phoenix (PHX). The flight number is actually used in both directions of travel, which isn't that uncommon, with both flights being operated by Boeing 737-800s.

However, things got a little strange last night, because it's not necessarily the same plane that flies in both directions (since American has many 737s in Phoenix that it can swap around). Last night:

AA2482 from Chicago to Phoenix landed at 12:13AM, well behind the scheduled 10:43PM arrival

AA2482 from Phoenix to Chicago took off at 11:58PM, roughly on-time, given its scheduled 11:45PM departure

What happened is that both planes ended up on the same Phoenix air traffic control frequency at the same time, with the same callsign.

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KEYWORDS: americanairlines; aviation; callsigns; phoenix
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To: NorthMountain

In general aviation, tail number works because you usually fly the same plane. In commercial, on domestic routes, crews often change planes several times a day. Their flight number is easier to remember, even if that changes once or twice a day. Regardless, on radar, the two airplanes with the same flight number would not be confused with each other. Each aircraft has a transponder, that sends out its unique identifier and altitude.


21 posted on 08/14/2026 2:34:44 PM PDT by 6AL-4V
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To: KC_for_Freedom

See also #12 and #16 ... apparently other airlines do this as well. So what’s up with AA? Is their management in need of AA?


22 posted on 08/14/2026 2:36:10 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: 6AL-4V
Regardless, on radar, the two airplanes with the same flight number would not be confused with each other.

Right ... but then there's the radio traffic from ATC to "Foobar1234" ... and both pilots hear it ... and both pilots think it's for them.

ATC handled the situation well, deconflicting by adding "arriving" and "departing" to the radio calls.

23 posted on 08/14/2026 2:39:03 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Red Badger

Yikes!

First it’s Hindus and Moslems in airport TSA and flight-control towers...

Now it is flight number sharing...

Thank goodness my wife had that dang knee replacement in 2006 when she was 68... No more flying...


24 posted on 08/14/2026 2:42:42 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is rabble-rising Sam Adams now that we need him? Is his name Trump, now?)
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To: NorthMountain

Thank you. As an aside, I slept in a hanger in Douglas Georgia. I got to sit the seat of a recovered P-38. There were other parts as well. Super cool for an aviation geek like myself.


25 posted on 08/14/2026 2:53:19 PM PDT by thegagline (If you hate Christianity, Vote Talarico. Sic semper tyrannis! Zeldin for President )
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To: BenLurkin

That can’t happen, or at least it should NEVER happen.


26 posted on 08/14/2026 3:37:41 PM PDT by Bullish (My tagline ran off with another man, but it's okay... I wasn't married to it.)
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To: NorthMountain

I ALWAYS THOUGHT FLIGHTS WERE NUMBERED DIFFERENTLY


27 posted on 08/14/2026 4:13:23 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: thegagline
"...The tail number seems to be a good idea."

Flight numbers are generated by Crew Scheduling well in advance. It's impossible for them to predict what aircraft will be assigned that route.

28 posted on 08/14/2026 5:35:52 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: thegagline

Glacier Girl?


29 posted on 08/14/2026 6:10:09 PM PDT by chaosagent ( )
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To: thegagline

Glacier Girl?


30 posted on 08/14/2026 6:23:23 PM PDT by chaosagent ( )
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To: BenLurkin; SkyDancer

I have no comment, I just wonder what Skydancer has to say.


31 posted on 08/14/2026 10:27:33 PM PDT by Pocketdoor
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To: Pocketdoor

When I was flying for Frontier I always gave the call sign of my aircraft followed by my flight number so I don’t know what went wrong there, DEI controllers? Now I fly bizjets and I do the same thing; I file a flight plan with my a/c call sign and I receive a transponder code to enter in my plane’s flight computer so that ARTC can follow me.


32 posted on 08/15/2026 10:44:17 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Am Yisrael Chai ~)
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To: T.B. Yoits
They're going to blame the $7.00 per day programmer in India who didn't code the software to enforce unique identifiers for the names.

What makes you write that a low paid worker in India is coding the U.S. Air Traffic Control software ?
33 posted on 08/15/2026 10:46:53 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: SkyDancer

He watched the weather for three days very intensely. Had to change plans from mountains to the coast. Headed a hundred miles in the opposite direction as planned to avoid the monsoon clouds coming in. It paid off.


34 posted on 08/15/2026 11:07:51 AM PDT by Pocketdoor
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To: SkyDancer

He watched the weather for three days very intensely. Had to change plans from mountains to the coast. Headed a hundred miles in the opposite direction as planned to avoid the monsoon clouds coming in. It paid off.


35 posted on 08/15/2026 11:08:01 AM PDT by Pocketdoor
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