Posted on 08/14/2026 1:04:46 PM PDT by BenLurkin
Every flight has a callsign that's used with air traffic control, and for commercial aircraft, that's generally going to be the generic airline callsign plus the flight number. Callsigns are of course unique to a particular flight, because that's the way that air traffic control communicates with pilots.
That brings us to what happened very late last night (Thursday, August 13, 2026), in Phoenix. AA2482 is a flight number used by American between Chicago (ORD) and Phoenix (PHX). The flight number is actually used in both directions of travel, which isn't that uncommon, with both flights being operated by Boeing 737-800s.
However, things got a little strange last night, because it's not necessarily the same plane that flies in both directions (since American has many 737s in Phoenix that it can swap around). Last night:
AA2482 from Chicago to Phoenix landed at 12:13AM, well behind the scheduled 10:43PM arrival
AA2482 from Phoenix to Chicago took off at 11:58PM, roughly on-time, given its scheduled 11:45PM departure
What happened is that both planes ended up on the same Phoenix air traffic control frequency at the same time, with the same callsign.
(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...
|
Click here: to donate by Credit Card Or here: to donate by PayPal Or by mail to: Free Republic, LLC - PO Box 9771 - Fresno, CA 93794 Thank you very much and God bless you. |
In general aviation, tail number works because you usually fly the same plane. In commercial, on domestic routes, crews often change planes several times a day. Their flight number is easier to remember, even if that changes once or twice a day. Regardless, on radar, the two airplanes with the same flight number would not be confused with each other. Each aircraft has a transponder, that sends out its unique identifier and altitude.
See also #12 and #16 ... apparently other airlines do this as well. So what’s up with AA? Is their management in need of AA?
Right ... but then there's the radio traffic from ATC to "Foobar1234" ... and both pilots hear it ... and both pilots think it's for them.
ATC handled the situation well, deconflicting by adding "arriving" and "departing" to the radio calls.
Yikes!
First it’s Hindus and Moslems in airport TSA and flight-control towers...
Now it is flight number sharing...
Thank goodness my wife had that dang knee replacement in 2006 when she was 68... No more flying...
Thank you. As an aside, I slept in a hanger in Douglas Georgia. I got to sit the seat of a recovered P-38. There were other parts as well. Super cool for an aviation geek like myself.
That can’t happen, or at least it should NEVER happen.
I ALWAYS THOUGHT FLIGHTS WERE NUMBERED DIFFERENTLY
Flight numbers are generated by Crew Scheduling well in advance. It's impossible for them to predict what aircraft will be assigned that route.
Glacier Girl?
Glacier Girl?
I have no comment, I just wonder what Skydancer has to say.
When I was flying for Frontier I always gave the call sign of my aircraft followed by my flight number so I don’t know what went wrong there, DEI controllers? Now I fly bizjets and I do the same thing; I file a flight plan with my a/c call sign and I receive a transponder code to enter in my plane’s flight computer so that ARTC can follow me.
He watched the weather for three days very intensely. Had to change plans from mountains to the coast. Headed a hundred miles in the opposite direction as planned to avoid the monsoon clouds coming in. It paid off.
He watched the weather for three days very intensely. Had to change plans from mountains to the coast. Headed a hundred miles in the opposite direction as planned to avoid the monsoon clouds coming in. It paid off.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.