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1 posted on 06/10/2026 8:36:30 PM PDT by Ex gun maker.
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To: Ex gun maker.

Employees blaming a computer system that either isn’t programmed to do something, which they don’t know how to use, or they don’t want to do is as as old as computers; people blaming the process for those same reasons is as old as civilization.


2 posted on 06/10/2026 8:39:45 PM PDT by No.6
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I realized that a dozen years ago when a Verizon store rep lied me into a phone and I entered Verizon refund hell. I was never refunded for a one year contract on a phone that never worked. One lesson I did learn, Verizon is the worst company on the planet and to never do business with them ever> “Can you here me now?”


3 posted on 06/10/2026 8:44:09 PM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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/John Connor watching y’all make friends with AI


4 posted on 06/10/2026 8:45:24 PM PDT by Salamander ( Please visit my profile page to help me go home again. https://www.givesendgo.com/GCRRDa)
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To: Ex gun maker.
"The system won't allow it". f

As the previous poster said, either the data is locked so the operator you are talking to cannot alter the information, or said operator is not permitted to make the change- same result. Anytime someone is telling you they cannot do what you request, always ask to speak to their supervisor!

5 posted on 06/10/2026 8:52:44 PM PDT by Ken522
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I have had a similar problem with two insurance companies and a large orange home center. Ill get zotted if i name them. The ceo of one insurance company was executed in ny.


6 posted on 06/10/2026 8:53:05 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Opinions and belly buttons, everybody has one and they get to show them if they want to.)
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Perfectly reasonable post. I have thought about this for months and see no happy resolution. The funny irony is we are rushing into this madness partly so China doesn’t beat us in this race, and it will be our undoing whether we get tgere first, or China does.


8 posted on 06/10/2026 8:57:26 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14/12- 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts photo-op locations.)
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People warned about this moment fast approaching. That moment when the majority of computer users realized they no longer controlled their own Operating Systems.

The Operating Systems are, for the most part, controlling themselves and building firewalls around US, ways to prevent US from interfering or interrupting what the Operating Systems perceive as perfect control.

Retaking and maintaining broad control will not be easy, inexpensive or to any users’ convenience, but it must be done.


9 posted on 06/10/2026 9:02:24 PM PDT by lee martell
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Trivial but I experienced a similar situation at a local auto parts store.

Had a product I wanted was on a “buy one get one free” promotion.
Big display and multiple signs.
Took two items up to the register. Rings up full price. Point to the BiG display. Shrugs and calls over another sales person. Tries a few times same result. Gets store manager. No solution.

Just ring up one and I’ll take two. Same transaction cost.
“No, we can’t do that. Messes up our inventory.”

So, left without my product.

Came back a week later. Still wouldn’t ring up correctly. Staff just shrugged.


10 posted on 06/10/2026 9:15:02 PM PDT by sjmjax
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"The system" will NOT ALLOW them."

Is there another service you can use? If so cancel Verison. When they ask why politely tell them. Threatening to canceling an account might get a resolution or at least be connected to someone who can help you.

11 posted on 06/10/2026 9:23:32 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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I concluded years ago that the modern world is simply too complicated for most people. A big reason for this is that we are in a self-reinforcing cycle where technology makes it easier to do things without much thought … which makes people dumber and less capable over time … which means they need more technology to get them through their daily lives. So the cycle repeats itself.

One of the things that exacerbates problems like the one you are facing is that the people who are least capable of functioning in the modern world often end up in customer service roles.

16 posted on 06/10/2026 9:34:05 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (If I leave here, it’s because I’m tired of arguing with geriatric parrots wearing MAGA hats.)
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📌✅


17 posted on 06/10/2026 9:36:45 PM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by 🙏 the prophesies set before you." ) I Timothy 1:18. Nazarite warriors. 10.5.6.5 These Days)
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I share your concerns. I wont use AI.


18 posted on 06/10/2026 9:39:03 PM PDT by sauropod
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1) stop paying your bill.
2) if they are automatically debiting a credit card or your bank account set it up so that the charge is REJECTED.

If you don’t pay, they will not keep you as a customer.


20 posted on 06/10/2026 9:41:29 PM PDT by johnnygeneric (RIP NYC)
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Yeah what a wast of time, you lost all credibility when you said ‘ijphone’ (Yes I meant to spell it that way.)


21 posted on 06/10/2026 9:49:26 PM PDT by BFW
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If you paid with a credit card, contact your card issuer and dispute the charge. Ditto, if you used PayPal.
Either one will likely contact Verizon on your behalf.
It worked for me on two different occasions.


22 posted on 06/10/2026 9:51:30 PM PDT by Ignatz ("Look, if I offend anybody today, I don't care." -Tom Homan)
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Not just Verizon.

AT&T is just the same. I've been trying for a month... probably 30-40 hours in total, trying to get a new cellular data modem activated. (because the old one is physically broken due to stupid design ...microswitches requiring a long, hard press while only supported by their tiny surface mount solder pads.)

It isn't just AI computers acting like Skynet... It is people creating corporate rules and physical systems without logic.

23 posted on 06/10/2026 9:55:43 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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Someday in the not too distant future it will be impossible to deal with a human at all.


24 posted on 06/10/2026 10:06:17 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If it ain't fun, you ain't doin' it right.)
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I was given a Verison phone which had to be unlocked so I could use it on my Consumer Cellular account. The original owner had to unlock it by calling Varison. No unlock happened. I have a useless Samsung Galaxy phone. I wish Congress would pass a law stopping this lock action.


27 posted on 06/10/2026 10:25:20 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The DemonKKKrat Marxists ride Unicorns on their fantasy farms.)
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Tracfone.


32 posted on 06/10/2026 10:56:59 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Verizon is the
WORST of the
WORST of the
WORST

I quit them 23-24 years ago

Then they bought TracFone which I have

Sigh 😔😔😔


33 posted on 06/10/2026 11:00:58 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They Did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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