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I Love EVs, But Kia and Hyundai Are Making That Harder
INSIDEEVS ^ | 22 May 2026 | Ty Duff

Posted on 05/23/2026 8:11:04 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

My family leased a Kia EV9 and a Hyundai Ioniq 5. It shows your mileage may vary in even the most critically acclaimed electric cars.

...“Later that day” ended up taking much longer. The service center did not have the car ready until the end of the day on January 9, 2026, nearly a month after I brought it in.

(Excerpt) Read more at insideevs.com ...


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KEYWORDS: automotive; electric; ev; underprepared
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To: subterfuge
But the Koreans are smart in that they keep all manufacturing in-house.

Are the Kia Motors Manufacturing plant in West Point, Georgia, or the massive Hyundai Motor Manufacturing plant in Alabama considered "in-house"?

21 posted on 05/23/2026 9:18:00 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (She's got freckles on her, but she is nice.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
No thanks, I'll stay with my 2019 Jeep GC Trackhawk HEMI:


22 posted on 05/23/2026 9:18:54 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Quit whining. Your victimhood is not my problem.


23 posted on 05/23/2026 9:22:41 AM PDT by webheart (Notice how I said all of that without any hyphens, and only complete words?)
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To: BobL

Anyone who is satisfied with their EV purchase is now a Trump despising EV apologist? You sure know how to stop a conversation. You must be great fun at parties.


24 posted on 05/23/2026 9:25:13 AM PDT by webheart (Notice how I said all of that without any hyphens, and only complete words?)
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To: BobL

“But, no doubt, the EV Apologists will show up here and tell us all just how wonderful EVs are and that we need to “get with it” (but they won’t tell us how much they despise Trump).”

Your post makes no sense. Trump likes EVs.


25 posted on 05/23/2026 9:32:12 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: oldtech

Park it in a bad neighborhood.


26 posted on 05/23/2026 9:51:44 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: IYAS9YAS

I guess you can’t just disconnect the battery.


27 posted on 05/23/2026 10:05:09 AM PDT by alternatives?
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To: ridesthemiles

Replacing the headlight on my F-150 would be about 1500 bucks. I’ll just trade it when that happens. ;-)


28 posted on 05/23/2026 10:14:22 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: Blue Highway
Is that the full EV or the hybrid Santa Fe? I was considering a Santa Fe/Sorento hybrid.

I know it's not a full EV. Pretty sure it's gasoline only.

29 posted on 05/23/2026 10:30:29 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: webheart

I have a now 2 year old Chrysler Pacifica Plug In Hybrid. I think it is the best car we have ever bought. It only goes 30 to 35 miles on the battery before the engine starts and takes over. We take a lot of long trips, Kentucky to south Florida, 1020 miles each way. While we take a lot of long trips, we already have over 50,000 miles on it a lot of our driving is short local trips where the engine doesn’t even start. We often go for weeks without putting gas in it. When we do drive on gas it only gets about 30mpg but it is a very big car and can comfortably carry 7 people.

We really like it and would buy another one but Chrysler has stopped making it. When I get the next new car it will be a plug in hybrid. Since I have solar on both houses, (KY and FL) my local driving is really cheap.

I guess when they start selling electric cars that charge in 5 minutes and go 700 miles on a charge I will take a look but until then I like my plug in hybrid.


30 posted on 05/23/2026 10:49:17 AM PDT by JAKraig
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To: Blue Highway

I have a 2025 Santa Fe hybrid. No issues except a couple very minor recalls.

No issues. Gets at least 32 MPG on the highway and closer to 40 around town.

Replaced my Ford Flex - that Ford no longer makes. I need a lot of cargo space behind the front seats for migrating back and forth to Florida with another person, our dog and all the trimmings. The Flex, which we loved got 22 MPG.


31 posted on 05/23/2026 11:42:50 AM PDT by John Milner (Marching for Peace is like breathing for food.)
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To: Blue Highway

The primary US manufacturing facilities that make and assemble Kia and Hyundai vehicles are located in Alabama and Georgia. Together, they produce hundreds of thousands of vehicles for the North American market


32 posted on 05/23/2026 11:55:26 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messag)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

On my second Tesla and when my ICE car dies, Im getting a 3rd.
Its a bummer they are painfully ugly to look at, but for a daily driver nobody makes a better one.


33 posted on 05/23/2026 12:28:03 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suckle the breast of Capitalism.)
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To: TexasGator; BobL
My wife and I like our EV for most of our driving. It has 94K miles even though next month is just the 4-year anniversary of owning it. Thus, the gas savings is enormous.

That said, I wouldn't recommend an EV for every scenario, like if you don't drive enough miles for the savings in gas to add up. And I don't think I'd like an EV as an only car (thus we sometimes depend on our gas pickup). And an EV works best if you can set up home charging, which some people can't do. And I'm not sure about driving an EV on long trips in the winter up north (which we don't do, but if we change our mind we have the gas pickup).

So there are many scenarios IMHO that an EV isn't good for. But for us it's great.

34 posted on 05/23/2026 12:52:59 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

With all we know about cars for so long now... why anyone buys anything other than Toyota or Lexus is beyond me. Gen 3 and 4
4Runners here plus a 04 Gx470. Son has an ES330. My other son has a D21 Hardbody. Ts 94 back when Nissan made quality vehicles. There’s a 99 Suburban here too with a 454 225k miles and is a constant headache. My Gen 3 4Runner is pushing 300k on timing belts and wires plugs coil pack replacement. Wife’s Gen 4 has been flawless at 260K now and my GX at 225k. I won’t buy anything newer than mid 2000s. Looking for another Gen3 4Runner and another D21.


35 posted on 05/23/2026 12:59:22 PM PDT by SACK UP
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Personally I love this:

The M923A2 is a highly rugged 5-ton, 6x6 military tactical cargo truck produced for the U.S. Armed Forces. Built on the robust M939 series chassis, it is widely utilized for heavy off-road transport, equipment hauling, and as a popular heavy-duty surplus project vehicle.


36 posted on 05/23/2026 1:24:42 PM PDT by kawhill (Dywedwch Wrthbym because + Add translation Welsh-English dictionary 'Tell Us')
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To: When do we get liberated?

As a senior septiganarain, with an RT that can be easily measured on a kitchen clock, I WANT FSD!

My guy Musk has been promising it for years, close but not ready yet?
I do not care about zero to 60; around here, there is almost always some mope in front of you, and with my RT, I’d be in a heap of trouble.
I have ridden in my sister’s Model 3 often, then one day, HOLEY MOLEY! She hammered it, two motor AWD 500 HP all at once, and not much noise!!!
Always been into bikes; cars were a way to keep dry. My R65 Airhead would have still been in the intersection, and we were gone...

Rich Rebuilds goes to China and tests FSD:
https://youtu.be/a46Xp8FtWOg?si=Dtzn6awAs6pWA5Di

I just want safe transportation, not a rocket sled.
Hybrid preferred.

Like my wife’s Prius V with FSD.


37 posted on 05/23/2026 3:09:53 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messag)
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To: SACK UP
With all we know about cars for so long now... why anyone buys anything other than Toyota or Lexus is beyond me. Gen 3 and 4 4Runners here plus a 04 Gx470.

I sure wish Toyota hadn't gone all-in on small turbocharged engines and hybrid systems. I'd love another naturally-aspirated, bulletproof V6 in an RX-350 or 4Runner, but I'll have to find a gently used CPO to stay with designs I trust.

Or maybe a new Honda Passport, since that has no hybrid version at all, and only comes with a V6, non-turbo (and a 10-speed automatic, non-CVT). I know that Honda's star has dimmed lately, too - but that vehicle seems to be aimed directly at me as a consumer.

38 posted on 05/23/2026 4:22:11 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: ridesthemiles
HAVE YOU DISCOVERED YET THAT TO CHANGE A HEADLIGHT IN EITHER ONE:...

Several GM trucks from around 2015 (I think) had to have the front bumper cover removed, so the grill could be removed, then the headlight assemblies could be removed and the bulbs replaced. This was deliberate.

39 posted on 05/23/2026 4:49:29 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: John Milner

That’s my my reason for getting a hybrid. Wanting at least 40 mpg. When I bought my 2012 Sportage EX it was advertised as 28 city and 32 highway. Never got anywhere near that and I found out to drive at 60mph on the highway will get near 30 with nothing in the car and using hypermiling tchniques like coasting in neutral to stop lights and stop signs, and pulse and glide cruising.


40 posted on 05/23/2026 4:54:11 PM PDT by Blue Highway ( )
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