Posted on 04/09/2026 9:16:35 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
As the ceasefire began, Tehran was already reshaping the terms of the agreement to its advantage rather than adhering to its spirit. On Wednesday, Tehran only allowed 12 cargo tankers to pass through the strait.
This sharply contrasts with pre-conflict levels, when more than 100 vessels could transit the strategic waterway daily.
With Vice President JD Vance in Islamabad on Friday for direct negotiations with Iran
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I'm not sure why a court would declare such a thing. This isn't an eminent domain case.
Child’s example is not a relevant one. An easement is usually granted to a buyer when a seller sells a property that cannot be accessed except though someone elses property, and the easement generally comes from the sellers remaining property.
The strait of Hormuz is not any nations property. 12 mile economic zones aside, any strait between two open seas bodies of water has free passage. This has been established law for a few centuries and codified in several forms of international law and norms for a century as well.
I would not take that post seriously. It’s just keyboard bravado.
Is your Iranian bunker air conditioned?
Your calling out Trump's stopping rogue regimes bent on getting nuclear weapons to use in their continuing 47 year campaign to fund terrorists, spread jihad, and kill westerners as "idiocy" also says something about you.
Oh, please. There are literally thousands of nuclear weapons in existence today, and nothing would ever stop someone else (Russia or China or Pakistan, for example) from selling one or more to Iran. The U.S. should get the hell out of these Islamic sh!t-holes and let them go trade ballistic missile attacks against each other.
But they don’t exist in the hand of lunatic religious zealots who LITERLLY SAY that their goal is to kill others.
Would you like us to wait until they DO have them? and use them?
You’re not very mature for an old man...
They, Iranians, can charge any toll they want. They don’t even have a dinghy left, how are they going to collect a single dihram?
This toll this toll that kerkuffle is ridiculous, IMHO.
The Strait of Hormuz is approximately 24 nautical miles wide at its narrowest, with Iran claiming the 12nm from its north shore and Oman claiming the 12nm from its south shore.
Actually, it's Oman's side of the Strait that is more navigable because it has the deep-water channels. The designated shipping lanes sit mostly inside Oman's territorial claims.
That said, Iran is claiming total control over the Strait now, which ignores Oman's historical possession of half of it. Iran is forcing shipping to be closer to its side of the Strait and has been attacking ships that are transiting in Oman's territorial waters.
-PJ
But don’t you get it?
That’s the damn problem! It was the same damn problem with Iraq.
This isn’t about military strategy and tactical adjustments. There’s not a nation on the planet the US military couldn’t beat - and excepting *maybe* China, squash to oblivion.
This is NOT a “simple” matter of “Welp, yeesh - turns out, we can’t take Caen or Cherbourg or etc per our plans so we have to adjust *military* strategies”.
There’s no Montgomery to (properly) blame, adjust, and plan around.
The problem is the lack of realistic thinking about the what, the why, and the how.
I would assume most people here are not up for a decades long occupation and generation long nation building exercise.
I’m not.
So.... NOW WHAT?
Strange that Iran specifically requested Vance. Maybe they think he will be easy. I hope they have underestimated him.
And you’re myopic.
Maybe too many movies, maybe too many video games. I don’t know.
I know it’s fun to pretend otherwise. I have every confidence that that the US Military can and will smash - and adjust then smash, when ordered to do so - whatever actual defense Iran throws back.
But my point remains THEN WHAT?
You want a decade of occupation? A Marshall Plan?
Those things made sense 80 years ago - Japan launched an attack on us, Nazi Germany declared war, and they had to be subjugated. Then, with the dawning Cold War? Yes, it also made sense to rebuild them as allies rather leaving them to stew in their rubble and potentially become communist satellites.
What makes sense about THIS war? WHAT THEN?
It would be wonderful if all the ayahtollahs - and ayatollahs in waiting, and novice ayatollahs, and etc were strung up by Iranians led by Levis McDonalds Americalovers...
But can we get back to reality? That’s clearly not going to happen.
The Middle East is filled with nations -- including ones that are governed by Islamic ruling families -- that are basically nuclear powers because they buy access to our government.
Iran is one of the world’s exporters of the spice Saffron do not sweat the oil, burn the saffron fields.
See post #60 also.
Have a nice day.
Other than you simply saying so, where is the evidence That you can simply buy a nuclear warhead? Because I would say that there is enough radical and wealthy money around the world that if that was possible, one would have been purchased and already used by a terrorist group against the United States or Israel.
Does the US charge for ships transiting our territorial waters?
No, the United States does not charge ships simply for transiting its territorial waters (the 12-nautical-mile territorial sea). Under international law, which the US follows as customary law, foreign ships have the right of innocent passage. This allows them to navigate continuously and expeditiously through the territorial sea without stopping or engaging in activities that could harm the coastal state’s peace, good order, or security. Coastal states like the US cannot levy charges or fees solely for this passage.
A natural waterway is a bit different than a man made canal. Natural, international straits don’t have fees. The Strait of Gibraltar is half as wide as Hormuz. The Bab-el-Mandeb Strait entering the Red Sea, the English Channel (Strait of Dover), Singapore Strait, Straits of Malacca, Danish Straits, all narrower than Hormuz and critical to free navigation and trade. The closest thing to a fee based strait is the Bosphorus & Dardanelles, but it is entirely within Turkey, less than 1/2 mile wide, and requires pilot and tug services for tankers and cargo ships.
Not really true. There is this thing called rationality. You have rational actors (people who are sane) and irrational actors (people who are insane). The sane actors we trust not to want global nuclear war for their own self preservation. The insane actors dont care about their own self preservation so long as they kill infidels. The russians and the chinese wont sell nukes to third parties as they are party to the treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and they know the mullahs are nuts.
Thank you, you did a lot more research than I did…👍
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