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This is also why I've been opposed to this war with Iran since the start.
It was so obvious from the beginning that Neocons would use this conflict to get everything they wanted, and when the backlash inevitably came from a global energy crisis or fears of yet another long-term conflict in the Middle East, they'd offload all the blame on Trump and Vance and go back to voting for Democrats in the midterms and in 2028. And they'd do all of this without ever telling their own friends in Congress to pass anything Trump's base actually cares about.
It was a rotten deal then, it's a rotten deal now, and it will be a rotten deal every single day until this thing is over.
Admitting all of this doesn't mean I've "betrayed Trump". I am still personally quite happy he won over Kamala Harris. Nothing that's happening in Iran erases the various other great things he's accomplished that few people nowadays want to talk about. I very much still voted to shut down the southern border, have negative net migration for the first time in 50 years, close down USAID, and fire 300,000+ Federal employees. Each of these wins were things that few of us thought was possible just a decade ago. He's done all of them in just a single year.
But it's clear that this war distracts from those accomplishments, fractures the base, and demoralizes our own side. Politically, it's a strategic blunder. It doesn't take away from the other things that are going on, but it certainly distracts from them.
The United States should be isolationist by nature and interventionist in rare, exceptional cases. That's the only legitimate political posture for a country that is supposed to be built on the idea of limited government. A government that pisses away thousands of lives and trillions of dollars on military campaigns in Islamic sh!t-holes halfway around the world while facilitating an invasion of Third World peasants here at home has no moral claim on any loyalty from its citizens anymore.
Most of us can pay attention to many things at once.
Shut your pie hole.
Topical ping on Iran.
The truth is that Trump himself has never been a team player either. And as a leader, he is absolutely vicious towards anyone who doesn't follow his lead 100% of the time.
That comes with a cost.
Trump is not crazy, or compromised. He’s pragmatic. One thing to keep in mind. Iran has been the world’s greatest sponsor of terror since 1979. Hundreds (perhaps thousands) of American lives have been lost because of Iran’s death cult (Shia Islam).
Iran is led by a death cult committed to starting nuclear WWIII with its so the Mahdi will appear from the well in Qom. We were able to confound their nuclear ☢️ program up to now. Obama tried paying them off! Perhaps Trump counted the cost and found Iran was too close to their goal?
Once again…Trump is not crazy or compromised. He’s pragmatic.
This war is NOT about “neocons”. It is about Iran having nukes and the ability to use them.
PERIOD.
I’m not a neocon....
One of my main reasons for backing President Trump is his pledge of no new wars.
Iran declared war on the United States in 1979.
THEY DECLARED WAR ON US!And they have been killing our soldiers,sailors, airmen and marines ever since.
Hundreds, if not thousands of deaths of Americans have been committed by this evil regime.
Carter said they are evil.
Reagan said they are evil.
Bushie 1 said they are evil.
Clintoon said they are evil.
Bushie 2 said they are evil.
FUBO said they are evil.
Brandon even said they are evil.
President Trump says enough, stop them from getting the bomb, then moves to shut them down for good.
After 47 years of half ass fighting a war that they declared.
STFU.
Define ‘Neocon’.
I hear the Gulf Muslim Arab States don’t want us to stop attacking Iran.
Damned Neocons.
Always tricking us into fighting their wars. Kuwait, Iran, ISIS, Yemen.
When will they fight their own wars so we don’t expend our blood and treasure on their wars?
Neo-con has became a pejorative label that some people, like this author, apply to anyone they don’t like. The SAVE Act not passing? It’s the neocons’ fault. Never mind that libertarians like Rand Paul, no neocon by any definition of the word, vehemently oppose ending the filibuster in order to get it passed. But Neocons aren’t team players, according to this author’s thesis. Never mind the decidedly un-teamlike behavior of staunch anti-neocons MTG and Nancy Mace.
Trump was never an isolationist and neither are most of his supporters. The only people walking away from Trump’s coalition right now are isolationists so it’s odd that the author would choose now as the time to come out with an article about neocons not being team players. But then again, disinformation was never designed to tell the truth.
They see people as mere pawns. They're going to get what they want from President Trump and then toss him to the side when they're done.
Trump’s been tricked by the Neocons again?
“America’s primary goal with Iran must be to destroy its nuclear ambitions. Let me put them as plainly as I know how: Iran’s nuclear program must be stopped — by any and all means necessary. Period. We cannot allow this radical regime to acquire a nuclear weapon that they will either use or hand off to terrorists.”
From that noted NEOCON book, “Time to Get Tough: Making America #1 Again” (published December 2011)
By Donald J. Trump
I like your take on these current events.
Anyone one doesn’t like gets a label “neocon,” “MAGA Republican,” “evangelical Christian,” “isolationist,” “anti-vaxer,” etc. The label is a stereotype applied to many but, in truth, applying to few.
The author makes a valid point that coalitions should involve respect for the opinions of coalition partners.
I generally supported past military actions. I have to admit now, that many solved problems only to create new problems.
I suggest we not assume that Trump will go down the same path as his predecessors. On the other hand, it might be a mistake to assume otherwise! It’s the slippery slope argument.
It wasn’t about the neocons. It was about Trump getting carried away. Whatever your philosophy or convictions, when you become president the power you have can go to your head.
“A rift on the Right”? The only rift here is between those of us who still have functioning testosterone and a sense of raw American survival instinct, and you isolationist purity cultists who’d rather be chanting “America First” like it’s some magic incantation that stops Iranian nukes and proxy armies. Real America First isn’t about choosing between securing the border and smashing enemies who threaten the lifeblood of the global economy. It’s about doing both—without turning into either neocon nation-building freaks or isolationist ostriches with heads buried so deep in the sand their asses are waving at satellites.
I agree with everything you said. I do provide allowance for the fact that he is acting on information we do not have. On the other hand, I do not trust the people who convey such information to be honest all of the time.
Rarely do our large, long-term interventions overseas these days produce much fruit, certainly not commensurate with the blood and treasure and political capital both domestic and world-wide that it costs.