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To: ChessExpert

As I understand it, Catholics and Gypsies were also killed during The Holocaust. I could be wrong. But, if that’s the case, why are they never mentioned? Are their lives less sacred?


2 posted on 01/29/2026 9:52:15 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. )
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To: Texas Eagle

“ But, if that’s the case, why are they never mentioned? Are their lives less sacred?”

We all know that.
But the Jews were the main focus of the mass murders


11 posted on 01/29/2026 9:58:51 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (“I don't really care, Margaret.””)
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To: Texas Eagle; lightman; Navy Patriot

Serbs and Poles. too!


13 posted on 01/29/2026 10:01:52 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Texas Eagle
As I understand it, Catholics and Gypsies were also killed during The Holocaust. I could be wrong. But, if that’s the case, why are they never mentioned? Are their lives less sacred?

Of course all the lives are sacred.

The extermination program killed about 11 or 12 million, of which. 6 million were Jews.
14 posted on 01/29/2026 10:02:16 AM PST by BikerJoe
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To: Texas Eagle
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More Jews were not murdered in the Holocaust than non-Jews—if comparing the specifically targeted Jewish victims of the genocide (the core of what is defined as the Holocaust) to the total number of non-Jewish victims killed by the Nazi regime and its collaborators for racial, political, ideological, or other reasons between 1933 and 1945.

The widely accepted scholarly consensus, supported by institutions like the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum (USHMM) and Yad Vashem, is:

When adding up the documented non-Jewish victims of Nazi persecution (excluding general war casualties like battlefield deaths or broad civilian bombing deaths), the total reaches several million—often estimated in the range of 5–11 million or more depending on how inclusively one counts groups like Soviet civilians/POWs under Nazi ideological/racial policies.

Authoritative sources emphasize:

In short: Jewish victims numbered ~6 million, while non-Jewish victims of Nazi murder/persecution (narrowly defined) numbered in the many millions—meaning more non-Jews were killed overall by the Nazi regime, though the Jewish genocide was uniquely systematic and intended to eradicate an entire people group.

The distinction matters because the term "Holocaust" (or Shoah) centers on the Jewish experience, while the broader Nazi crimes included massive additional atrocities against other groups.

15 posted on 01/29/2026 10:02:29 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ( Klaatu barada nikto.)
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To: Texas Eagle
--- "As I understand it, Catholics and Gypsies were also killed during The Holocaust. I could be wrong."

You are not wrong at all. Add in a number of other groups too.

--- "...if that's the case, why are they never mentioned? Are their lives less sacred?"

To some, yes. Less sacred. But then today with rampant abortion and euthanasia and the "compassionate" release of recidivist murderers who murder again, not to mention the toll from wars in many places, life is not sacred to many, even to those enlightened intellectuals and high-minded ethicists and so many in the political classes.

For too many, life is not sacred. Sad.

18 posted on 01/29/2026 10:05:56 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Texas Eagle

Catholics weren’t killed because they were Catholics. Only Jews and Gypsies were killed because of their ethnic group afaik. Of course Catholic is not an ethnic group.


20 posted on 01/29/2026 10:08:22 AM PST by lasereye
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To: Texas Eagle
As I understand it, Catholics and Gypsies were also killed during The Holocaust.

Adolph Hitler's National SOCIALIST Third Reich murdered approximately 11.5 million people in death camps. Very famously, ~6 million of those people were Jews. In some people's minds, the remaining ~5.5 million people don't count. Deliberately ignoring those 5.5 million victims of state-sponsored murder is a form of "holocaust denial".

25 posted on 01/29/2026 10:12:47 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Texas Eagle
"As I understand it, Catholics and Gypsies were also killed during The Holocaust."

Anybody that pissed Hitler off was killed. He started with political prisoners, then went on to the disabled, and continued on down the line. He killed his own supporters during "The Night of the Long Knives" because he was afraid they were getting too powerful.

30 posted on 01/29/2026 10:16:49 AM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Texas Eagle
As I understand it, Catholics and Gypsies were also killed during The Holocaust. But, if that’s the case, why are they never mentioned? Are their lives less sacred?

The difference is The Holocaust was a deliberate attempt by satanic servants to completely eradicate all the Jews from the face of the earth.
34 posted on 01/29/2026 10:20:34 AM PST by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Texas Eagle

90% of the Gypsies and Catholics in Europe didn’t die. I have ZERO issues with people pointing out that they also murdered the low IQ and communists but they were not targeted and killed to the extent Jews were.


38 posted on 01/29/2026 10:24:19 AM PST by Mr Rogers
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To: Texas Eagle

You are correct.
Although Jews were the primary target and victims, many others were eliminated.

The REAL shock was the Treblinka camp.
Out of the 1M sent there, only 76 survived.
They ran away just before the Russians arrived.


50 posted on 01/29/2026 10:35:47 AM PST by Zathras
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To: Texas Eagle

Well said. Speech writers for Vance need to be aware of specifics that the audience can relate to. The audience does not relate to abstract generalities.


80 posted on 01/29/2026 11:33:56 AM PST by spintreebob
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To: Texas Eagle

I saw an interview with Gene Simmons the other day about his family in the concentration camps. He mentioned the Gypsies Christian Jews Catholic you name it. Hitler didn’t care.


81 posted on 01/29/2026 11:34:08 AM PST by Hyman Roth
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To: Texas Eagle

More Christians were killed in the Holocaust than Jews but nobody mentions that — and the overwhelming majority of them were killed for helping/protecting the Jews.

Are you aware that Poland has the highest death rate of people killed for helping/protecting Jews?

Look up the Ulma family; a whole family including little kids and their pregnant mother were murdered for hiding two Jewish families in their attic.

If push comes to shove, how many would shelter/protect white people/Christians from the genocidal left — and the ultimate leftist goal is genocide.


84 posted on 01/29/2026 11:40:59 AM PST by Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi ( Gen. 12:3: a warning to all antisemites)
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To: Texas Eagle

“As I understand it, Catholics and Gypsies were also killed during the Holocaust. ... why are they never mentioned? Are their lives less sacred?”

How many tens of millions of Christians were killed in China and Russia? There were more Christian martyrs in the 20th century than in the early days of the Church. You don’t hear about it because media, entertainment and education despise Christians.


87 posted on 01/29/2026 11:42:43 AM PST by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: Texas Eagle

The Nazis killed everyone “not fit.” Mentally retarded were the first. Then the disable. Then they rounded up “political prisoners” intellectuals, Roma, Sinta, Commies, and then Jews.

FYI There is a very nice memorial for the Roma in Berlin worth visiting for a few minutes. Nothing big. Just a room with a pool and skylight but very nice to visit and pay your respects if you ever go. The holocaust memorial looks like a silly stack of dominos lined up ready to get knocked over. If you really want a tear jerker there are memorials of Jewish grave markers placed in fields because the Nazis tore them up and used them for roads and the cemeteries were plowed over and lost to history. Track 17 is also particularly touching.


91 posted on 01/29/2026 11:50:39 AM PST by Organic Panic ('Was I molested. I think so' - Ashley Biden in response to her father joining her in the shower)
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To: Texas Eagle

Thousands of Catholics, Roma/Gypsies in the 100s of thousand, and people often forget Protestant Christians as well. For example Dietrich Bonhoeffer was a Lutheran pastor and theologian leader of the Confessing Church (Lutheran) in Nazi Germany. The largest church of 18 million (in a country of 65 million people) of which Bonhoeffer was a leader/theologian, was the Evangelical Church of the Old Prussian Union. The nazis worked diligently to dissolve this church,and sent many of the 3000 plus pastor to Concentration/death camps.

The Holocaust happened to all kinds of religious people— who would not submit to the Paganist Socialism of the Nazis— who, like all Socialists require their public to worship at the altar of all-controlling Socialist government— and have no religion but that.


113 posted on 01/29/2026 12:55:00 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis )
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To: Texas Eagle

The Holocaust was expressly directed at the systematic extermination of Jews individually and as a people, while the five or so million others sent to the camps and killed there had run afoul of the Nazis in one manner or another.


124 posted on 01/29/2026 1:45:30 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Texas Eagle

Correct.

Estimate of Jews killed in the camps @ 6 million

Others: Germans, Catholic, Communists, Slavs, Gypsies, Homosexuals, the mentally Ill, Handicapped and anyone deemed an enemy of the state…

@ 5 million

The 5 million are very rarely if ever mentioned.


135 posted on 01/29/2026 4:42:49 PM PST by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal !)
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