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Texas A&M philosophy professor ordered to remove Plato reading or be reassigned
KBTX ^ | 1/7/26 | Delaney Wolovlek, Rusty Surette, Josh Gorbutt

Posted on 01/07/2026 4:33:43 PM PST by Round Earther

COLLEGE STATION, Texas (KBTX) - Another Texas A&M professor is facing scrutiny from university administration over course curriculum, being instructed to remove readings from his syllabus.

Professor Martin Peterson confirmed to KBTX’s Rusty Surette that he was instructed by the philosophy department to remove readings in his “Contemporary Moral Issues” course related to race and gender - including readings by the Greek philosopher Plato - or be reassigned.

“I speak for myself, not the university, when I say in my opinion, Texas A&M is not on the right track. Censorship is not a viable path to academic excellence,” said Peterson.

(Excerpt) Read more at kbtx.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Education
KEYWORDS: epigraphyandlanguage; faithandphilosophy; godsgravesglyphs; plato; renaissance; symposium; texas
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To: Round Earther
For those who do not know...

Plato (circa 425 BC - 350 BC) is generally considered to be the Founding Father of Western Philosophy.

Plato did not endorse racial quotas or trans-gender surgery.

41 posted on 01/07/2026 6:26:32 PM PST by zeestephen (Trump Landslide? Kamala lost the election by 230,000 votes, in WI, MI, and PA.)
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To: Round Earther

What does Plato know about philosophy?


42 posted on 01/07/2026 6:28:55 PM PST by Drew68 (I haven’t seen the Democrats this mad since yesterday. Save some tears for tomorrow.)
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To: BenLurkin

Philosophy without Socrates is like ... I don’t know. Nobody has ever experienced that.


43 posted on 01/07/2026 6:40:56 PM PST by aspasia
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To: mewzilla
My, how times have changed.

Could that be irony I detect?

https://www.bucksafa11.org/2022/12/14/the-way-of-the-world/

The Penguin Classics version of Plato The Republic I use was translated by H.D.P. Lee and although the copy was purchased in 1972 I’ve never made a serious attempt to read it in the fifty years it’s been sitting on one shelf or another and to be honest, it never made that much sense to me anyway until recently.

When I did read through certain sections of The Republic I have wondered about those who have read it, how many have recognized what it was laying out and how many had an understanding of the correlating events that were presented throughout the disintegrative stages of our Republic but did not draw attention to it clearly nor with any great force...

What goes around, comes around does appear to be the form and style of Arena Earth and education designs the controls that deliver the means that sketches the plan the architects draw and the surveyor develops that lays the trail that determines the form of resets used throughout history that blaze the predestined path of civilization for humanity to travel. Predestined?

Would you agree the major undermining issues of human society identified by Plato and targeted as the causal factors of misery and abject poverty and listed below as that which comprise the meat of the current leftist progressive focus they seem hell bent on locking US into?

Abolish families PART SIX [BOOK FIVE] Women and the family pg 212

Deception and lies PART SIX [BOOK FIVE] Women and the family pg 214

Women’s equality PART SIX [BOOK FIVE] Women and the family pg 209

Have no possessions PART SIX [BOOK FIVE] Women and the family pg 221

Slavery PART SIX [BOOK FIVE] Women and the family pg 220

Civil strife and war PART SIX [BOOK FIVE] Women and the family pg 229

Abortion and eugenics PART SIX [BOOK FIVE] Women and the family pg 215

Children are State Property PART SIX [BOOK FIVE] Women and the family pg 201.

Those issues were discussed by Plato in The Republic and The Republic, as described by H.D.P. Lee, (pg 16) is a statement of the aims of the Academy he founded in Athens in 386 B.C. and purposed to train a new type of politician, a class of ‘philosophic statesmen’. Somewhere along the line the student body must have been re-directed.

But what do those issues have to do with predestination?

Only one thing for Christians; God our Creator has blessed humanity with a conscience and the ability to distinguish between right and wrong.

The concept of predestination implies a nullification of discernment when we are faced with a difficult choice; it provides an excuse to bail.

Lee pointed out it was unlikely Plato expected immediate results but who would have thought more than two thousand years later the same issues…?

Abolish families *

https://www.bucksafa11.org/2022/03/02/smell-the-sulfur/

Deception and lies href=https://www.bucksafa11.org/2021/05/26/responsibility-as-deception/ **

Women’s equality ***

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2012/02/women-white-miller-woman-young-2

No possessions ****

https://newspunch.com/wef-caught-scrubbing-you-will-own-nothing-and-be-happy-post-from-internet/ Slavery *****

http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc1404/article_1241.shtml

Civil strife and war ******

https://www.bucksafa11.org/2020/09/06/lunch-bucket-joe/

Abortion and eugenics *******

https://www.bucksafa11.org/2022/06/27/wymen/

Children are State property ********

https://thenewamerican.com/project-veritas-uncovers-abuse-of-migrant-children-in-latest-sting/

…would still be the issues manipulated by politicians? That’s quite a stretch even for modern thinkers under the influence of propaganda to believe; political power so continuous it would enable politicians to shape a world that survived powerful resets for almost two millennia and still have the same core problems that stretched back to ancient Greece?

Looking back 2,000 years I’d say Plato’s Academy was either semi-successful, a perfectly performed misdirection play or its intentions had been completely hijacked by that entity that comes to mind when we consider whose single focused end purpose is reportedly hell bent on subverting Gods’ creations.

Are we supposed to think politicians, proven believers of the church of the here and now and based on only one precept,’ what’s in it for me?’, and having Mephistopheles as their choir director, control the reins of human development? Politicians are the reins and reins respond to whoever is holding them.

Look again, it ain’t US.

God is being ignored and it’s about time the danger that ignorance is denying is recognized.

44 posted on 01/07/2026 6:53:45 PM PST by MurrietaMadman (The Gates of hell shall not prevail against you)
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To: Round Earther

Aggies banning Plato. No biggie. Their grads will still be the same.


45 posted on 01/07/2026 7:20:34 PM PST by caddie (Going forward we all need to become Trump, and also Captain Obvious, and Charlie Kirk too. )
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To: MurrietaMadman

Thank you for these quotes and links and excellent analysis of Plato’s own words— Nothing new under the Sun, once you look back a few millennia. All those Elitists seem to have the same Playbook 🧐


46 posted on 01/07/2026 7:53:08 PM PST by Jarvis Law 2.0
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...

47 posted on 01/07/2026 7:57:34 PM PST by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: JZelle

The purple haired weirdos are in every states educational system.


48 posted on 01/07/2026 11:02:53 PM PST by IDFbunny (Crimea was never Ukraine.)
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To: All

Plato they say could stick it away.


49 posted on 01/07/2026 11:59:37 PM PST by Peter ODonnell (Do not go gentle into that good night; rage, rage against the dying of the light -- Dylan Thomas)
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To: frank ballenger

“Even more than Spike Lee and Malcolm X?”

I don’t think it is possible to make a more ignorant statement.


50 posted on 01/08/2026 2:50:43 AM PST by odawg
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To: vikingd00d

> The professor was only using psssage of Plato to advocate homosexuality and transgender nonsense

the key point the news article bypasses. The professor was instructed to remove the advocation of homosexuality and transgender nonsense specifically, and they’re crying “buuuttt muh Plato”


51 posted on 01/08/2026 5:12:42 AM PST by no-s (Caja del Orador, Caja de Papeletas, Caja del Jurado, Caja de Cartuchos ... ya sabes cómo va...)
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To: odawg; Bruce Campbells Chin
"“Plato was an elitist scumbag.......... He had quite an influence on the civilization you are living in."......Yes, you are correct............
52 posted on 01/08/2026 5:33:01 AM PST by Red Badger (Iryna Zarutska, May 22, 2002 Kyiv, Ukraine – August 22, 2025 Charlotte, North Carolina Say her name)
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To: Red Badger

For you few people who think your are experts on Plato, and I am not one, but I do know he condemned homosexuality in no uncertain terms.

Socrates should be the one you are after.


53 posted on 01/08/2026 6:01:13 AM PST by odawg
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To: odawg

I have nothing against Plato. I was just pointing out that there is a chain of upscale second-hand Consignment clothing stores called Plato’s Closet, where you can sell your designer clothing after everybody has seen you wear it once..........


54 posted on 01/08/2026 6:05:25 AM PST by Red Badger (Iryna Zarutska, May 22, 2002 Kyiv, Ukraine – August 22, 2025 Charlotte, North Carolina Say her name)
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To: odawg

RE: “Even more than Spike Lee and Malcolm X?”

I don’t think it is possible to make a more ignorant statement.


I have to trust that you understood I was making an ironic, humorous statement and that you didn’t mean to attack me but just went along with my humor.


55 posted on 01/08/2026 8:48:43 AM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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To: Jarvis Law 2.0
All those Elitists seem to have the same Playbook.

Right down to 'reset by invasion'.

From https://www.bucksafa11.org/2022/12/14/sound-familiar/

Excerpt from Plato The Laws Chapter 9 The Foundation of the New State: The selection of the citizens. (pg 202)

...To purge a whole state, for instance, several methods may be employed, some mild, some drastic; and if a legislator were a dictator too he’d be able to purge the state drastically, which is the best way.

But if he has to establish a new society and new laws without dictatorial powers, and succeeds in administrating no more than the mildest purge, he’ll be well content even with this limited achievement...

...The milder purge we could adopt is this. When there is a shortage of food, and the underprivileged show themselves ready to follow their leaders in an attack on the property of the privileged, they are to be regarded as a disease that has developed in the body politic, and in the friendliest possible way they should be (as it will tactfully be put) ‘transferred to a colony’. Somehow or other everyone who legislates must do this in good time; but our position at the moment is even more unusual. There’s no need for us here and now to have resort to a colony or arrange to make a selection of people by a purge. No: it’s as though we have a number of streams from several sources, some from springs, some from mountain torrents all flowing down to unite in one lake.

We have to apply ourselves to seeing that the water, as it mingles, is as pure as possible, partly by draining some of it off, partly by diverting it into different channels. Even so, however you organize a society, it looks as if there will always be trouble and risk.

True enough: but seeing that we are operating at the moment on a theoretical rather than a practical level, let’s suppose we’ve recruited our citizens and their purity meets with our approval. After all, when we have screened the bad candidates over a suitable period and given them every chance to be converted, we can refuse their application to enter and become citizens of the state; but we should greet the good ones with all possible courtesy and kindness.

There is one difference. In the establishment of the new modern society, the social scientists are aiming to develop a more compliant class to serve their wants and needs, making the servants compliant by replacing the frigidity of rugged individualism with the warmth of collectivism.

That is a lie hiding behind it the lie of trans-humanism which will lead to installing a hell on earth.

That's how I see it.

56 posted on 01/08/2026 9:47:47 AM PST by MurrietaMadman (The Gates of hell shall not prevail against you)
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To: Round Earther
According to his syllabus, the particular passages of Plato he had assigned were from the Symposium, specifically 180c-185c, 189c-193d, and 210a-212b, different speakers talking about love.
57 posted on 01/08/2026 1:36:08 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

The earlier medieval universities (12th and 13th centuries) were studying some works of Greek philosophy but in Latin translation. During the Renaissance knowledge of Greek became more common and many works of Plato and Aristotle were translated into Latin for the first time, making them accessible to a wider audience.


58 posted on 01/08/2026 1:40:39 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

the point is: the original intent of the university as an institution hinged on the classics. 📖


59 posted on 01/08/2026 2:18:01 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege ( 🩰🌹)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
That was true in colonial America--you had to demonstrate a certain level of proficiency in Latin and Greek to be admitted to college. Of course many of those going to college intended to become ministers

John Adams told his son John Quincy that Greek was the most perfect of human languages. John Adams read widely in Greek and Latin authors--he owned a copy of the complete works of Plato in Greek with the Latin translation by Marsilio Ficino. I have seen a photo of the cover of his copy--John Quincy Adams' signature appears in the upper right-hand corner.

Meanwhile Thomas Paine thought there was no need to learn foreign languages because everything of value had been translated into English.

60 posted on 01/09/2026 11:34:31 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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