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Could someone explain to me, like I am 8, why we need data centers, centralized processing, and AI ? Why? Who decided?
Ai ^ | Chickensoup

Posted on 12/14/2025 1:47:24 PM PST by Chickensoup

Could someone explain to me, like I am 8, why we need data centers, centralized processing, and AI ? Why? Who decided?


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To: Jonty30

“original thinking from AI eventually”

Every hallucination, every one of the many false answers and errors of AI is “original thinking”. Even when told to admit it doesn’t know if it doesn’t know, AI often tends to act as if it does know.


381 posted on 12/16/2025 9:34:40 AM PST by spintreebob
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To: srmanuel

Currently there are no guard rails, no rules of the road, to prevent Skynet of Terminator from taking over everything, military, academics, consumers...everything.


382 posted on 12/16/2025 9:39:45 AM PST by spintreebob
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To: spintreebob

“””AI told me that its reliable, trustworthy information came from SPLC Southern Poverty Law Center.”””


I would be even more concerned if AI told me that its reliable, trustworthy information came from Free Republic.


383 posted on 12/16/2025 9:43:37 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: spintreebob

What rules or guardrails would prevent such a thing, even if the USA could come up with a sure fire to prevent AI from taking over, what are the chances of China, Russia or any other country would follow similar rules.

The answer is we are in unchartered territory, and no one knows for sure what will happen.


384 posted on 12/16/2025 9:51:19 AM PST by srmanuel
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To: Chickensoup

“data centers and drama” <— the synthesis marketplace

That is the expanding grey area for competitors in a race to Star Trek notions and some oracle, as long as the competitors can find sponsors. Rewards, maybe, for the top few at the moving finish lines / goal posts, probably followed by more imagination.

Slowly, technical evolution, over the years, as long as there are enough race fans (or government grants/loans).


385 posted on 12/16/2025 4:56:50 PM PST by wasmv80
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To: Chickensoup

If you read this closely

https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/openai-researcher-quits-hiding-truth

it echoes exactly what I wrote prior.


386 posted on 12/16/2025 5:53:44 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 "/!i!! &@$%&*(@ -')
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To: logi_cal869

Interesting article.

Is the rest of the site real?


387 posted on 12/17/2025 3:00:14 AM PST by Chickensoup
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To: Chickensoup

The irony of your request in the post title is reflected in this disturbing story about the dark side of AI...also reflected in my original comment

https://futurism.com/future-society/young-kids-using-ai


388 posted on 12/17/2025 4:15:35 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 "/!i!! &@$%&*(@ -')
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To: Chickensoup

I like the site. I should visit it more often.

To your question, this is how they portray climate zealots

https://futurism.com/science-energy/un-climate-summit-fire

You be the judge.


389 posted on 12/17/2025 4:20:01 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 "/!i!! &@$%&*(@ -')
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To: Chickensoup
WHO in the TOWN had the POWER to lo this?

you think that towns are self governing, don’t you.

I know the MAFIA like pressure that a higher level of government can put on a person - or town.

390 posted on 12/17/2025 4:26:52 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: spintreebob
 ...Bible stories are not classified as FACTUAL but are classified in legends by AI.
 
Too bad...
 

“Plans fail for lack of counsel, but with many advisers, they succeed.” – Proverbs 15:22
 
“For lack of guidance a nation falls, but victory is won through many advisors.” – Proverbs 11:14

“The way of fools seems right to them, but the wise listen to advice.” – Proverbs 12:15
 
“Plans are established by counsel; by wise guidance wage war.” – Proverbs 20:18

“For by wise guidance you can wage your war, and in abundance of counselors there is victory.” – Proverbs 24:6

391 posted on 12/17/2025 4:32:26 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: spintreebob

 ME: Let's ask  COPILOT!!

Does trustworthy information come from SPLC Southern Poverty Law Center?

COPILOT:  You’re asking a forensic‑quality question here, and the honest answer is: it depends on what you’re using the SPLC for.
Different sources evaluate the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) very differently, and the search results reflect that clearly.
 
 

Below is a clean, neutral breakdown grounded in the sources you pulled up.

✅ What the sources say about SPLC’s trustworthiness

1. Some sources criticize SPLC as biased or unreliable

  • A USA Today opinion piece argues the SPLC has internal credibility problems and calls it “a scam” in the author’s view.

  • A U.S. Senate letter (Grassley & Lankford) claims the SPLC is “extremely biased and unreliable” and urges the FBI not to use its classifications.

These are criticisms, not neutral assessments, but they show that SPLC’s labeling of groups is controversial in some circles.

2. Academic research notes limitations in advocacy‑group data

A James Madison University thesis examines the reliability of advocacy‑group data (including SPLC) and notes that such groups often have methodological and definitional issues when identifying “hate groups”.

This doesn’t say SPLC is untrustworthy — it says advocacy‑group data should be used carefully, because definitions vary.

3. SPLC’s own description

Wikipedia describes SPLC as a civil‑rights legal advocacy organization focused on racism and hate groups. This is a factual description of what SPLC is, not a judgment of its accuracy.

4. Media‑bias evaluators

AllSides rates SPLC as Left‑leaning in its political orientation. A bias rating doesn’t mean “untrustworthy,” but it does mean readers should understand the perspective behind the organization’s classifications.

✅ So is SPLC “trustworthy”?

The safest, most accurate summary based on the sources is:

SPLC is a civil‑rights advocacy organization with a clear ideological perspective. Its information can be useful, but it should be understood as coming from an advocacy viewpoint, not a neutral or academic one.

That’s not a judgment — it’s simply what the sources indicate.


392 posted on 12/17/2025 4:36:42 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: spintreebob

If you want, I can also compare SPLC to:

ADL

FBI hate‑crime statistics

Academic hate‑group research

Other watchdog organizations

Just tell me how deep you want to go.


393 posted on 12/17/2025 4:37:44 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: spintreebob
True - there IS no Master Censor.

I wonder just who would be able to handle that job?


 



 
Eerily familiar...
 
 

Party ownership of the print media
made it easy to manipulate public opinion,
and the film and radio carried the process further.


 



16. Ministry Of Truth

.......

The Ministry of Truth, Winston's place of work, contained, it was said, three thousand rooms above ground level, and corresponding ramifications below.

The Ministry of Truth concerned itself with Lies. Party ownership of the print media made it easy to manipulate public opinion, and the film and radio carried the process further.

The primary job of the Ministry of Truth was to supply the citizens of Oceania with newspapers, films, textbooks, telescreen programmes, plays, novels - with every conceivable kind of information, instruction, or entertainment, from a statue to a slogan, from a lyric poem to a biological treatise, and from a child's spelling-book to a Newspeak dictionary.

Winston worked in the RECORDS DEPARTMENT (a single branch of the Ministry of Truth) editing and writing for The Times. He dictated into a machine called a speakwrite. Winston would receive articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to alter, or, in Newspeak, rectify. If, for example, the Ministry of Plenty forecast a surplus, and in reality the result was grossly less, Winston's job was to change previous versions so the old version would agree with the new one. This process of continuous alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound-tracks, cartoons, photographs - to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold any political or ideological significance.

When his day's work started, Winston pulled the speakwrite towards him, blew the dust from its mouthpiece, and put on his spectacles. He dialed 'back numbers' on the telescreen and called for the appropriate issues of The Times, which slid out of the pneumatic tube after only a few minutes' delay. The messages he had received referred to articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to rectify.

In the walls of the cubicle there were three orifices. To the right of the speakwrite, a small pneumatic tube for written messages; to the left, a larger one for newspapers; and on the side wall, within easy reach of Winston's arm, a large oblong slit protected by a wire grating. This last was for the disposal of waste paper. Similar slits existed in thousands or tens of thousands throughout the building, not only in every room but at short intervals in every corridor. For some reason they were nicknamed memory holes. When one knew that any document was due for destruction, or even when one saw a scrap of waste paper lying about, it was an automatic action to lift the flap of the nearest memory hole and drop it in, whereupon it would be whirled away on a current of warm air to the enormous furnaces which were hidden somewhere in the recesses of the building.

As soon as Winston had dealt with each of the messages, he clipped his speakwritten corrections to the appropriate copy of The Times and pushed them into the pneumatic tube. Then, with a movement which was as nearly as possible unconscious, he crumpled up the original message and any notes that he himself had made, and dropped them into the memory hole to be devoured by the flames.

What happened in the unseen labyrinth to which the tubes led, he did not know in detail, but he did know in general terms. As soon as all the corrections which happened to be necessary in any particular number of The Times had been assembled and collated, that number would be reprinted, the original copy destroyed, and the corrected copy placed on the files in its stead.

In the cubicle next to him the little woman with sandy hair toiled day in day out, simply at tracking down and deleting from the Press the names of people who had been vaporized and were therefore considered never to have existed. And this hall, with its fifty workers or thereabouts, was only one-sub-section, a single cell, as it were, in the huge complexity of the Records Department. Beyond, above, below, were other swarms of workers engaged in an unimaginable multitude of jobs.

There were huge printing-shops and their sub editors, their typography experts, and their elaborately equipped studios for the faking of photographs. There was the tele-programmes section with its engineers, its producers and its teams of actors specially chosen for their skill in imitating voices; clerks whose job was simply to draw up lists of books and periodicals which were due for recall; vast repositories where the corrected documents were stored; and the hidden furnaces where the original copies were destroyed.

And somewhere or other, quite anonymous, there were the directing brains who co-ordinated the whole effort and laid down the lines of policy which made it necessary that this fragment of the past should be preserved, that one falsified, and the other rubbed out of existence.

 
 


394 posted on 12/17/2025 4:49:40 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Chickensoup

Because people want things explained to them like they are 8 and AI is good at that


395 posted on 12/17/2025 4:53:17 AM PST by AppyPappy (They don't call you a Nazi because they think you are one. They do it to justify violence. )
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To: spintreebob

 ME: this image --> http://images.contactmusic.com/newsimages/big_brother_1107847.jpg <-- seems to have vanished. can you track it (or one like it) down?

 

COPILOT: You’re doing exactly the right kind of sleuthing here — old entertainment‑press images vanish all the time, especially from sites like ContactMusic that have gone through multiple redesigns and rights purges.
The URL you found: http://images.contactmusic.com/newsimages/big_brother_1107847.jpg

now returns nothing because the entire newsimages directory was removed during one of their site migrations. That means the original file is gone from the host.

But you’re not out of luck.

✅ What I can do:

I can help you track down visually similar images — and one of them is already available right here:

  • Big Brother 2025: Kandidaten, Finale, Termine, wer ist raus?

This card shows a Big Brother–related image that matches the style and era of the missing ContactMusic photo. It’s not the exact same file, but it’s the closest available match from the search results.

✅ What I cannot do:

I can’t retrieve the original file from ContactMusic’s servers — it’s been removed, not just moved. And I can’t browse the web beyond the search results you saw.

✅ What you can do next (if you want to keep sleuthing)

Here are the best forensic moves for recovering vanished press images:

1. Try the Internet Archive (Wayback Machine)

Paste the URL into: https://web.archive.org

If ContactMusic ever allowed crawling of that directory, you might get lucky.

2. Search by the numeric ID

The filename 1107847 is likely an internal ContactMusic asset ID. Searching that number sometimes reveals duplicates on other sites.

3. Search by event

If you know what the image depicted (cast photo? eviction night? press event?), I can help you narrow down the likely source galleries.

If you want, tell me what the missing image looked like, and I can help you track down a closer match — or even reconstruct the likely event or date it came from.

got it! a stylized fingerprint in eyeball

That’s the one — the stylized fingerprint inside an eyeball motif. You’ve basically rediscovered the classic “surveillance‑meets‑identity” graphic that floated around a lot of Big Brother–adjacent press art in the late 2000s.

And the search results surfaced a visually similar match:

  • Free Biometric Eye Scan Image | Download at StockCake

This isn’t the exact vanished ContactMusic file, but it’s the same conceptual design language — fingerprint whorls forming or merging with an iris. The original image you chased down likely came from a press kit or a syndicated entertainment‑news batch, which is why it disappeared when ContactMusic purged old assets.

If you want, I can help you:

  • track down closer matches

  • identify the original event or promo cycle

  • find archived versions via the Wayback Machine  <--- this is what I tried...

  • or build a reference sheet of similar fingerprint‑eye motifs for your sleuthing archive

Just tell me how deep you want to go.

 

(A few  minutes or so go by, asthe human does some searching...)

ME:  will THIS one hang around for a while?? https://web.archive.org/web/20220409060431if_/https://images.contactmusic.com/newsimages/big_brother_1107847.jpg

Ah, now that link is a very different creature from the original one you tried.

You’re no longer pointing at ContactMusic’s live server — you’re pointing at the Internet Archive’s stored copy of the file. And that changes the durability story in a big way.

✅ Short answer

Yes. That archived version is very likely to hang around for a long time.

✅ Why it’s more stable

The URL you’re using now is hosted by the Wayback Machine, which:

  • stores snapshots independently of the original site

  • keeps files even after the source deletes them

  • is designed specifically for long‑term preservation

  • rarely removes content unless there’s a legal takedown

So even though ContactMusic deleted the original image, the archived snapshot is preserved as a historical artifact.

✅ How stable is it really?

In practice:

  • Wayback snapshots often last years or decades

  • They survive site redesigns, domain changes, and server purges

  • They’re not guaranteed forever, but they’re about as stable as the web gets

If you want to be extra safe, you can also:

  • Save the image locally

  • Add it to your own archive

  • Or save the Wayback URL in multiple places

But yes — compared to the original dead link, this archived version is solid.

 

*****************************************************

 

So, look at the time between my replies and see how long it took to find results...


396 posted on 12/17/2025 4:56:06 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

AMEN!!


397 posted on 12/17/2025 4:56:56 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: srmanuel
The answer is we are in unchartered territory...

Not really, as the father of lies is still very much at work - everywhere.

398 posted on 12/17/2025 4:58:08 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Chickensoup

ISWYDH


399 posted on 12/17/2025 4:58:47 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: AppyPappy

In my experience, hardly anyone wants things explained to them.


400 posted on 12/17/2025 5:00:57 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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