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A war between Israel and Turkey?
American Thinker ^ | 15 Nov, 2025 | Joseph Puder

Posted on 11/16/2025 6:27:29 AM PST by MtnClimber

The potential for a military clash between Turkey and Israel is growing. There are several colliding points, and each one of them has the potential to become a full-scale war, despite mechanisms designed to avoid conflict.

The most obvious is the Syrian front. Reports indicate that Turkey plans to help Syria’s transitional government develop a military force of approximately 200,000 personnel (approximately 10–15 divisions). Turkey has assumed the role of protector of Syria’s president, Ahmed al-Sharaa (al-Jolani, his nom de guerre). Israel, for its part, has assumed the role of protector of the Druze minority in southwestern Syria, an area that Israel seeks to demilitarize. The establishment of Turkish army and air force bases throughout Syria might be the next step. Should al-Sharaa, with Turkey’s support, seek to forcibly subjugate the Druze or perhaps even the Kurds, clashes between Israel and al-Sharaa’s Turkish overlords would be inevitable.

Another point of contention between Turkey and Israel will likely be Gaza. Israel is adamantly opposed to Turkey being part of the Gaza International Stabilization Force (ISF), not to mention having Turkish troops next to Israel’s borders. Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s affinity toward the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas, with whom he shares the Muslim Brotherhood ideology, would, in all likelihood, not force Hamas to disarm and carry out its expulsion from Gaza. Erdoğan is hoping to mobilize all Palestinian factions against Israel and would do everything possible to keep Hamas armed and in control of Gaza. Erdoğan’s positions are religious as well as geopolitical imperatives that he hopes will weaken the Jewish state, if not destroy it outright.

The Mediterranean Sea is another area of disputation between Israel and Turkey. The alliance among Cyprus, Greece, and Israel, which establishes defined territorial boundaries for oil and gas exploration, does not sit well with

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1 posted on 11/16/2025 6:27:29 AM PST by MtnClimber
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Erdoğan’s Turkey poses a major threat to Israel, far more of a threat than the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Really?

2 posted on 11/16/2025 6:27:59 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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“Moreover, Turkey is a member of NATO and has one of the group’s more potent militaries.”

That puts an interesting spin on things. NATO is under no obligation to come to a member’s aid if that member starts a war.

But in the very, very unlikely event that Israel strikes Turkey first…

🤔


3 posted on 11/16/2025 6:33:25 AM PST by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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To: MtnClimber
I thought we had the president of Syria under CIA control.

How did we get here?

4 posted on 11/16/2025 6:36:14 AM PST by Captain Walker ("Justice exalteth a nation: but sin maketh nations miserable." – Proverbs 14:34)
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To: Leaning Right

The Ottomans shouldn’t be in NATO to begin with.


5 posted on 11/16/2025 6:39:58 AM PST by Frank Drebin (And don't ever let me catch you guys in America!)
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To: Captain Walker
I thought we had the president of Syria under CIA control.

He went to the White House last week.

So if that's the case, then the Syrian Strongman is a realist but time will tell.

It usually backfires when the CIA intervenes in a foreign country.

In Iran we backed the Shah only to have him overthrown by Islamic Fundamentalists decades later.

6 posted on 11/16/2025 6:40:03 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Frank Drebin

Turkey needs to get out of Cyprus.


7 posted on 11/16/2025 6:41:45 AM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: Captain Walker

The current head of Syria is ISIS. He was invited to the White House. Strange times.


8 posted on 11/16/2025 6:43:17 AM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: MtnClimber

Turkey is critical to ‘peace’ in the region President Trump friends with President Erdogan.

Tom Barrack Ambassador for the POTUS and old buddy of Jeffrey Who?


9 posted on 11/16/2025 7:03:41 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER REV; NIEMOLLER)
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To: MtnClimber

Turkey is critical to ‘peace’ in the region President Trump friends with President Erdogan.

Tom Barrack Ambassador for the POTUS and old buddy of Jeffrey Who?


10 posted on 11/16/2025 7:03:41 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER REV; NIEMOLLER)
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To: Frank Drebin
The Ottomans shouldn’t be in NATO to begin with.

When the Soviet Union existed they were the only NATO country that actually shared a border with same and Turkey's location provided great opportunities for listening posts etc as well as missiles. Incirlik was / is a great location for an air base. But Erdogan has been increasingly taking Turkey away from NATO.... There is no current rationale for its continuing membership.

11 posted on 11/16/2025 7:32:06 AM PST by Rummyfan (Ok In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support lthe civilized man.👨 so t tv)
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To: Leaning Right

[That puts an interesting spin on things. NATO is under no obligation to come to a member’s aid if that member starts a war.

But in the very, very unlikely event that Israel strikes Turkey first…

🤔]


IIRC, the obligation is to consult. The treaty’s not a light switch. Even in Afghanistan, NATO contributed, at the peak, 1/3, most in support rather than combat roles. And with Afghanistan, the trigger was 9/11, an obvious outrage.

If the US had done a 9/11 on Afghanistan, and the Afghans struck back with a similar atrocity, it’s unclear that NATO would have shown up for the war. It certainly never did for Europe’s colonial wars, and was absent, under the NATO flag, in both Korea and Vietnam.


12 posted on 11/16/2025 7:34:02 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Rummyfan

Turkey was in it to weaken Russia, so as to facilitate the new Ottoman Empire.


13 posted on 11/16/2025 7:34:47 AM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: MtnClimber

Everyone here is right.

What a cluster.


14 posted on 11/16/2025 7:52:33 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Real Genocide of Christians by muslims in Sudan and Nigeria gets no notice from Jew haters.)
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To: MtnClimber

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/gaza-stabilization-force-proposal-by-u-s-gets-pushback-from-russia-china-and-arabs


15 posted on 11/16/2025 7:52:57 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Frank Drebin

The Ottomans are the real “Settler Colonialists”. Istanbul should be Constantinople again.


16 posted on 11/16/2025 8:00:41 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Eventually Turkey and Russia will be allies, the question is who will be the lead dog?


17 posted on 11/16/2025 8:02:47 AM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: MinorityRepublican
In Iran we backed the Shah........

Until Carter switched that backing to Khomeini and the islamists.

18 posted on 11/16/2025 8:14:11 AM PST by jimtorr
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To: MtnClimber

Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has been spoiling for an open conflict with Israel ever since he has risen to power in Turkey. A very uncertain friend of the West, he really has in mind the restoration of the Ottoman Empire. He just could never make himself an ally of the Islamic Republic of Iran in any way, shape, form, or manner.

The enemy of my enemy can very well also be an enemy. This is the Middle East. Jealousies and blind prejudice run deep.


19 posted on 11/16/2025 8:22:50 AM PST by alloysteel (You gotta accentuate the positive, Eliminate the negative, Latch onto the affirmative....)
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To: MinorityRepublican
In Iran we backed the Shah only to have him overthrown by Islamic Fundamentalists decades later.

I guess that's one way to put it.

We put the guy into office. We didn't like who the Iranian people actually elected (because he became hostile to British oil interests), so the CIA and MI6 instigated a coup that removed the elected official; we then put our puppet into place.

20 posted on 11/16/2025 8:40:21 AM PST by Captain Walker ("Justice exalteth a nation: but sin maketh nations miserable." – Proverbs 14:34)
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