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The Garden Thread - June, 2025
June 1, 2025 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 06/01/2025 5:48:14 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

The MONTHLY Gardening Thread is a gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to/removed from our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a MONTH Ping List, but we DO post to the thread all throughout the month. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time.


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: food; garden; gardening; hobbies
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
No overhead watering for tomatoes. They HATE that. Wet leaves = disease.

For us with the frequent rains and heavy dews, you can add roots in water 3" down. Not good. Only my potted plants are doing well. Maybe I should have built raised beds, but God knows how I'd afford the good draining soil. Go dig sand over at the river, if I can get away with it, maybe.

81 posted on 06/01/2025 8:02:56 PM PDT by Paul R. (Old Viking saying: "Never be more than 3 steps away from your weapon ... or a Uriah Heep song!" ;-))
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

Bump for morning. I know the bulbs you bought, but will look up info on the variety in the AM.

BUT - I still stand on my knowledge that the COLOR of the onion is based upon the the VARIETY of the onion; not how they’re grown.


82 posted on 06/01/2025 8:05:46 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Qiviut

Qiviut. Alfalfa makes a good fertilizer! Maybe I should look around here and see if I can find pelletized bag locally.


83 posted on 06/01/2025 8:10:01 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission (Zone 7B KS/MO border 63F clear)
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To: metmom

That’s true - but in all my years (decades!) of growing tomatoes, they seem to WELCOME rainwater over overhead watering from the hose or sprinkler.

I have no idea how they know the difference! :)

I’ve also found that I have MUCH better production and less disease issues in a ‘dry’ year when I am personally tending to my plants while Mother Nature is off doing other things and NOT raining on me. ;)


84 posted on 06/01/2025 8:12:41 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: metmom

I’ll check into that.


85 posted on 06/01/2025 8:12:54 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I believe you, though I’ve never seen red onions in the store that had this little color. Makes me wonder what variety the commercial growers use, and why a different variety would be sold to home gardeners.


86 posted on 06/01/2025 8:16:22 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

There are many varieties of onions.


87 posted on 06/01/2025 10:04:32 PM PDT by metmom ( He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.”)
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To: Bon of Babble

Love all the gorgeous pictures. Have never seen so many cactus blooms. Sorry you are still dealing with ash! And you little ones have jobs! love it.


88 posted on 06/02/2025 3:33:14 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

Commercial growers tend to put shelf-life and portability above all else. That’s why store-bought tomatoes, unless locally sourced, taste like cardboard for the most part. ;)

My favorite red onion (in my Zone 5a) variety is ‘Redwing.’ Nice size, great flavor and stores/keeps wonderfully.

“(105-120 Day) The longest-keeping red storage onion. Bulbs store nearly as well as Patterson Hybrid. The glossy, dark red, 3-4” globe-shaped onions are moderately pungent, very firm and have good skin retention. Tops grow upright and strong. Long-day.”

You also need to know which onions grow best in your zone:

Long-Day, Intermediate and Short-Day Onions Explained

https://www.tinygardenhabit.com/long-day-intermediate-and-short-day-onions-explained/

Who knew that growing a simple ONION could be so complicated! ;)


89 posted on 06/02/2025 6:17:29 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: FRiends
And speaking of onions:


90 posted on 06/02/2025 6:18:52 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Please take care - stay inside if you need to with air purifiers.

During the Jan. fires we had here in LA - I was right smack in the middle of the three largest fires, our particulate level got up to 368, normal for us is around 40. I went outside for a few minutes, came back in and had a bloody nose.

I saw this map last night of the spreading soot, ash and particulates from the Canadian fires and immediately thought of you:

B981-A0-FC-F783-4-B12-AFE1-43-E0-F5205-D2-F-1-102-o

91 posted on 06/02/2025 6:21:47 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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To: Albion Wilde

That particular amarylis was given to me by a neighbor - I’d never seen an orange one before and was happy to add it to my collection.

Neighbor dropped off about 12 huge bulbs two years ago that she’d dug up from her yard and was going to toss in the green bin, but thought I might want them. Bulbs like that go for around $20-25 at our local nursery, so I was happy to get them. Also in the dump were a number of spider lily bulbs - none of them have flowered yet, just a lot of greenery so far.


92 posted on 06/02/2025 6:24:50 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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To: lepton

The main tree in our house yard is a HUGE (and I mean you can see this thing from SPACE!) Maple tree. When she sheds her leaves in the fall, the first three rows of my garden beds are covered. I just let them break down over winter; they are a great soil amendment.

That tree is also home to all kinds of birds (two Oriole nests in there, this year) and she gives wonderful morning shade for working in the garden, but you’ve only got until about 11am to get everything done for the day. The garden is, ‘ All Sun Until Sunset’ from that point on. ;)


93 posted on 06/02/2025 6:26:36 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Albion Wilde

“...and also I stick it out of the upstairs window to do one of the trees that brushes the house!”

Pictures, or it didn’t happen, LOL! :)


94 posted on 06/02/2025 6:28:32 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Thanks. Sounds like short-day onions are the way to go around here.


95 posted on 06/02/2025 6:35:19 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Qiviut

“Alfalfa mildews/molds easily so it needs to be dry before baling.”

This past week they took the first cutting of Alfalfa on our farm. They wrapped it all for just that reason.

Molly Brown! I remember the movie (staring Debbie Reynolds) and the beginning was her as a baby, in a basket, riding the rapids in a big river! Not sure if that was true or not.

She was a passenger on the ‘Titanic’ and survived the sinking, though. Amazing life!


96 posted on 06/02/2025 6:36:30 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: metmom

Ping to posts 89 & 90.

You’re getting to be our Onion Expert here. :)

As I’ve said, I don’t grow them very often as Wisconsin is a huge onion producer and they’re cheap for me all year round. Same with other root crops like carrots and potatoes.

The whole center of our state is Sandy Loam soil, thanks to the Glaciers and they grow root crops for the rest of America and export.

On, Wisconsin! :)


97 posted on 06/02/2025 6:42:02 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: FRiends

The week ahead:

Monday - HOT! Hitting 84 today
Tuesday - 81, 80% chance of rain (we could use some)
Wednesday - Lingering showers, back to 73
Thursday - 74, overcast, funeral for First Cousin, Scot :(
Friday - 75, 20% chance of rain
Saturday - 75
Sunday - 74, 30% chance of rain

Today’s goal is to get my Green Bean seeds in (’Saychelles’ Pole Bean) as well as some Scarlet Runner Beans for the Hummingbirds to enjoy. I watered the garden yesterday.

Eating from the Land, Garden, Pantry:

Hash Brown Casserole made with our own eggs. Pork Sausage from the neighbor’s hog. V8 Juice from last year’s canning. Applesauce from last years apples/canning. Life Is Good!

https://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/hash-brown-egg-bake/#RecipeCard


98 posted on 06/02/2025 6:59:18 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; HartleyMBaldwin

My favorites for open pollinated so you can save the seeds and they’ll breed true, are Stuttgarter and Milano D’Rossa.

I’ve watched some you tubers on growing onions. These three guys cover three completely different growing zones. Migardener is Michigan, the Millennial Gardener is SC, and Epic Gardening is S. California. They all have made several videos each on growing onions.

My favorites are:

Migardener -
Most Gardeners Want BIG Onions, But Don’t Do THIS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxFH36F9r18

Millennial Gardener: 6 Tips To Grow The BIGGEST Onions EVER!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f3lUsvIFn0&t=2s

Epic Gardening: My New Favorite Way To Grow BIG Onions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbuwWCpTXDY&t=3s

We were in your situation in NY. NYS has a tremendous agriculture and onions are a big crop in Central NY, so they were cheap and plentiful. NOT worth the garden space.

Here in NH, it’s another story so since they are more expensive and I have a MUCH bigger garden, it’s worth it to grow them.


99 posted on 06/02/2025 7:08:41 AM PDT by metmom ( He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.”)
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To: metmom

This morning, a bit before 4 AM, our Border Collie, Mandy, insisted that she had to go outside. She went out and right back in, shaking her head and drooling up a storm. Yeah…Flower. Barb had to mix up a batch of treatment and the house still smells.

As Von Moltke the Elder once said, “No plan survives contact with the enemy!” It applies to skunks as well!


100 posted on 06/02/2025 7:31:14 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (“Time to Play Cowboys and Snowflakes!”)
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