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1 posted on 04/10/2025 9:23:52 AM PDT by grundle
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” This reflects ... Apple’s profit margin (typically 60–62%).”

I think we’ve located room for some cost increases.

Hint: Companies don’t charge the total of their costs, but what the market will bear, for their products.


2 posted on 04/10/2025 9:26:54 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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you could give it a better prompt, saying something like, assuming you are a US based supply chain expert, etc. (ie, to get a deeper, more well thought out professional answer...).

My personal opinion is that once American problem solvers put their minds to this, it will get done and the US based products will be competitive, very quickly....

Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s my opinion.


3 posted on 04/10/2025 9:28:09 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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5 posted on 04/10/2025 9:30:43 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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Practically all the manufacturing of a smartphone can be automated, very few humans needed................


7 posted on 04/10/2025 9:34:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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Is the article making the case for lower labor costs? I’m confused..because it certainly seems like it.


9 posted on 04/10/2025 9:35:15 AM PDT by mikelets456
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Seems like a good case for doing away with federal mandated minimum wage.


10 posted on 04/10/2025 9:37:34 AM PDT by Billie Bud
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Raw Materials and Mining: iPhones contain about 75 elements, including rare earths (e.g., neodymium, dysprosium), aluminum, gold, and silicon. The U.S. lacks domestic sources for many of these.

Equine feces. We have all of those minerals, but many if not most are sequestered by environmental set-asides, distorting both strategic availability and price. Consider Chocolate Mountain.

12 posted on 04/10/2025 9:40:42 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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So we asked a big tech google search accumulator that presents the results in conversational style rather than as a list, with all the parameters set by big tech, what it would cost to force big tech to not built it in China?

No vested interest there, no sir...


16 posted on 04/10/2025 9:44:07 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI...)
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“The U.S. lacks the scale and expertise of China’s manufacturing hubs “

This is a significant disadvantage in a war. And alone is enough reason to move manufacturing processes back here.


17 posted on 04/10/2025 9:45:18 AM PDT by DannyTN
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Well that is more costly but clearly not “The End of the World As We Know It”.


18 posted on 04/10/2025 9:46:40 AM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (You can vote totalitarians in but you can never vote them out...)
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I was listening to Peter Zehan talking about the impact of technology on manufacturing and farming. He said, in the US and probably only in the US the cost of modernizing and robotizing the manufacturing process and farming process can be amortized. The market is big enough and the farms are large enough to make large scale industrialization possible. He recounted the story of a shirt factory moved from China, where it employed hundreds of people at sewing machines to a fully automated US facility with two employees on staff at any time. One loaded bolts of cloth and the other managed software. The facility produced shirts at a fraction of the cost of producing in China.

As for agriculture, advances in AI and video meant a machine rolling over the rows of food could instantly assess the needs of each plant spraying with insecticide, or nutrients as required. Essentially industrial scale gardening.

The entire supply chain would be shorter and therefore cheaper. As is shipping to the final market.

When we evaluate a change, we do so assuming all else remains constant.


19 posted on 04/10/2025 9:47:07 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (I had a tagline and I dropped it. The cat back-pawed it under the Barcalounger. )
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I asked Grok...

Stopped reading there.

21 posted on 04/10/2025 9:48:10 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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That is 1:1, who would assume the iPhone that Taiwan-based Foxconn builds in Communist China would be 1:1? That is not Grok’s fault that is user input error at the “source” lol.

For instance, China supplies 85% of global rare earths, and there are no bauxite mines for aluminum in the U.S

So what? The largest producer of bauxite ore is Oz. One of the largest producers of recycled aluminum is … the United States.

Everything in that article is based on an invalid assumption - Foxconn is ‘obligated’ to source almost everything not Taiwanese through the PRC. If the phone were to be built in the US, it would be built without the inefficiencies of a monorithic communist centrah-pranning confucian backwater motard PRC.

22 posted on 04/10/2025 9:50:17 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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This was an exercise in Stupidity!


23 posted on 04/10/2025 9:52:18 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Trump has all the right enemies, DeSantis has all the wrong friends.)
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25 posted on 04/10/2025 9:53:01 AM PDT by Fido969
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With Apple’s current profit margins, retail prices could range ... to $3,400.

Interesting.

Multiplied by the number of I-phones that I have to replace, or will ever purchase, this will cost me about $00.00.

26 posted on 04/10/2025 9:55:43 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (President Trump Decisively Won Popular & E.C., Celebrate Recivilization!)
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So it might cost $500 more to manufacture.

That’s nothing.


27 posted on 04/10/2025 9:57:48 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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It didn’t factor in the fact that there are no cellphone factories in the Americas (both continents). So first you have to build a factory. Which you shouldn’t really do because so much of the market is in Asia.


28 posted on 04/10/2025 9:58:35 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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Once again the squirrels are eating Dan's brain.
31 posted on 04/10/2025 10:03:58 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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If we kept the slaves of our past, they too could be making Apple phones I suppose.


32 posted on 04/10/2025 10:05:10 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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