In the mid 1970s I had two coworkers who were born during WWII.
One was from Japan.
The other was born in Nazi Germany and she said her birth certificate, as all born then, had Adolph Hitler’s signature on it. She said “I know it was a rubber stamp but it was the official one with his signature.”
Creepy.
I would think it’d depend on previous cases. I’m sure Biden isn’t the only former WH occupant (or state governor for that matter) who’s used an autopen to authorize governmental stuff.
The unauthorized users should be the ones charged.
In a sane world - it’s treason and they go away to either the gallows or prison for a long time
It will be interesting to see if the unauthorized users pardoned themselves
The Validity of the Presidents Signature Is Nothing New. I Have Several Land Grants from Presidents Buchanan and Pierce That I Thought Were Valuable, but I Was Told They Were Signed by a Staffer Signing the Presidents Signature.
I’m not a lawyer, but this is my understanding.
Under U.S. law, the autopen has been deemed a legally valid method for a president to sign documents, provided that the president has authorized its use. This was confirmed in 2005 by the Department of Justice under President George W. Bush and has been used by multiple administrations.
The key factor isn’t the physical signature but whether the president actually approved or intended to authorize the document, whether by signing it himself or approving the use of the autopen. In Biden’s case, proving or disproving that in court would be extremely difficult.
I want to see ALL of them CHARGED!
Autopens and Certificates Of Live Birth have similar importance: Legitimacy of Office, and legitimacy of documents. In some cases, both at the same time.
And, they should be charged in a jurisdiction other than the SDNY or similar.
It’s a freaking signature. How freaking lazy or infirmed do you have to be to always use an autopen?
The autopen story should be viewed with a few other facts in mind.
Trump put in place some national emergency EO’s, including 13818 and 13848. 13848 is ‘Foreign Interference in a Domestic Election’, signed in Sept 2018. Since it sunsets in 1 year, Trump renewed it twice, to the end of term 1. bidAn ALSO RENEWED 13848, 4 times, each September. It is currently STILL IN FORCE.
All told, bidAn renewed eight of these EO’s.
So, whatever is done with “autopen signed” orders, these 8 EO’s still stand, as the Swamp is forced to out and destroy itself.
Y’all notice Trump is signing everything by hand, often in front of cameras? This is no accident.
Any document not physically signed by the President is invalid.
The Biden Presidency simply never existed
has the official presidential portrait of the autopen been completed yet?
First you would need to study all of the presidential edicts signed by autopen.
hey, he defeated medicare, give the guy a break :)
We know what should be done. But nothing will be done. Once the beta-cucks refused to look into Bathhouse Barry’s real background; I knew without a doubt there is a uniparty.
Recall the computer program a few years ago the when you spoke it printed it.
Imagen what it would print if Biden spoke.
I read this so quickly I read it as “Biden’s autopsy...”
And, was not saddened by it.
Perhaps Congress should pass legislation that Presidential signatures on Executive Orders and pardons must be witnessed. There is ample precedence for other official documents needing witnessed signatures and in the past Presidents have often had official signing ceremonies for major legislation and Executive Orders.