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It seems like companies can legally refuse to hire anyone between 45 and 60.
1 posted on 02/28/2025 10:31:32 AM PST by nickcarraway
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“Here are 14 reasons...”

Went to the article - the 14 reasons are nowhere to be found.

Maybe it was posted there by a Gen Z’er. :)


2 posted on 02/28/2025 10:33:30 AM PST by simpson96
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Here's the author. A real serious journalist.

3 posted on 02/28/2025 10:34:49 AM PST by simpson96
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No old people.
No young people.

Millenials are having their moment.

For me, the core problem isn’t really any of the generations. I think companies don’t pay well, and they have a lot of stupid rules. Young people may be bratty but they also realize that this is all a great big game, and the deck is stacked against them. They’ve been lied to all their lives, and they realize that the American Dream was there for older people, but it isn’t there for them. They are deciding that they don’t want to play a game that they can’t win.


6 posted on 02/28/2025 10:36:12 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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Gen Z will quit on you and/or force you to quit them.

This Gen A group is going to run rings around them. Gen Z isn't going to have it nearly as well as the Boomers, gosh gosh.

7 posted on 02/28/2025 10:37:20 AM PST by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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I’m going to say the same thing I told the executives I work with at my current company: Bullsh*#

I’ve hired nearly 2 dozen Gen Zs in the past 10 years and my daughters are both Gen Z.

If you screen, hire, and train correctly they are just as hard working as any other generation. Put them in the role that fits them and train them up and they are great.

They have suffered a disservice from the colleges they attended in comparison to prior generations, but that isn’t necessarily their fault as much as the prior generations who didn’t police the universities properly...similar to how our govt. got out of control.


14 posted on 02/28/2025 10:46:15 AM PST by reed13k
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A local restaurant, great food, just announced earlier today that they weren’t opening today at all because of no staff showing up. It’s a university town & a lot of their customers are college kids,so that’s gotta hurt financially.


18 posted on 02/28/2025 11:01:03 AM PST by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!)
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My son is Gen Z. He’s well into an electrician’s apprenticeship and testing far above his classmates. He’s hoping that after his apprenticeship he can go for an Engineering degree to be able to design the things he’s working on now rather than running conduit and pulling wire. I think he’ll be fine.


21 posted on 02/28/2025 11:04:48 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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There are well known laws that prohibit firing or not hiring for certain reasons. Outside of those laws in most states there are no laws that prevent firing for any reason at anytime. There are some civil and even common law practices that may come into play but for the vast majority of jobs it is “employment at will”.


22 posted on 02/28/2025 11:20:49 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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MSN’s 14 reasons Z’s are being fire, along with MSN’s 14 excuses for bad Z behavior, plus 14 MSN “suggestions” for bosses about how bosses should adapt their company to the bad behavior of their wretched, entitled Z employees, you know, instead of just firing them ...


25 posted on 02/28/2025 12:03:13 PM PST by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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> Complaint: Gen Z doesn’t take initiative
> Complaint: Gen Z challenges traditional workplace norms
> The one really disturbing thing about younger generations
> in the workplace is the inability to NOT share EVERYTHING

That tracks with my experience. Gen Z workers can be absolutely great: smart, dedicated, highly productive. But some are definitely bottom 10% material: highly educated, well-credentialed, but unreliable, argumentative, and eager to take the initiative, but not in any ways that have anything to do with what the company is supposed to be doing. A department meeting is NOT the time to “challenge workplace norms” by delivering a harangue on your pet social justice issue, nor is a group lunch the time to start talking about how much you love your new anal beads. (I am not making this up.)

I blame HR, for not merely not filtering these people out early in the recruiting process, but for seeming to think we need *more* people with anger issues, hair colors not found in nature, and an inability to decide which gender they are this week.


26 posted on 02/28/2025 12:16:42 PM PST by Flatus I. Maximus (I didn't leave the Democratic Party. It LEFT me, and keeps going further left. )
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It seems like companies can legally refuse to hire anyone between 45 and 60.

I'm still working full time. Age 68. Generated over 900,000 lines of network interface code last night. Got a clean compile in Java after adding some dependencies to the gradle build file. I'll be cobbling up the network services code this afternoon. I could probably be a bit more productive, but 12 hours was enough for me yesterday. I wrapped up around midnight. I've been a software engineer since 1980.

My employer does lots of business with the fed gov. If Elon torches our contracts, I'll just do my retirement paperwork and enjoy my remaining time.

28 posted on 02/28/2025 12:25:52 PM PST by Myrddin
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The GI Generation whined about the Silents and Boomers. The Silents and Boomers whined about Gen X and Millenials. Now it is Gen X's and Millennials turn to whine.
30 posted on 02/28/2025 12:31:12 PM PST by Wallace T.
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What an absolute ridiculous web site that is... I scrolled for a good length of time and seen 2 of the reasons i think. all the ads and BS!! Thanks nick, but its too much trouble for what its probably worth....


37 posted on 02/28/2025 2:08:17 PM PST by sit-rep
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Articles like this are Boomer Propaganda, to make them feel better about themselves and how they are screwing over the younger generations.

I worked with and hired many Gen-Z, they are fine. Give them a task and they do it as efficiently as possible. I love working with young people.

It’s these Psycho Boomers who won’t die/retire that are the problem in the work place. I don’t blame younger generations for not wanting to work with them and put up with their Boomer BS.

No, I won’t help you format your word document and why do we have to have another meeting to discuss how to make a table in excel.

Be gone already


39 posted on 02/28/2025 2:35:27 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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I would not hire several of those who looked like those in the photos


40 posted on 02/28/2025 2:39:23 PM PST by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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The 45-60 thing is closely related to the excessive cost of health care - remove legal requirements for employers to provide it and the hiring landscape would brighten up considerably.

I’ve had much more trouble with Millennial employees and their Obama-Utopian world views than with Gen Z - but one thing Gen Z has trouble with is understanding the value of longevity. Six months is an eternity to them, and they can’t wait to leave and find something more exciting to do - but they aren’t building track records that are going to help them when the great opportunity comes their way. And those shiny new things usually don’t work out for them…

44 posted on 02/28/2025 4:24:11 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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