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How Many People Lived in North America Before the Arrival of Europeans?
Archaeology Magazine ^ | February 5, 2025 | Madelein Mackie

Posted on 02/08/2025 7:05:35 PM PST by SunkenCiv

Science Magazine reports that Robert Kelly of the University of Wyoming and his colleagues compiled more than 60,000 radiocarbon dates for artifacts from the United States and Canada. Then, assuming that the amount of radiocarbon data collected from a given region reflects its population at that time, the researchers made comparisons between the possible size of the populations over time and between regions. The study suggests that North American populations grew for about 2,000 years and peaked around A.D. 1150, then the size of the population decreased by at least 30 percent by 1500. Yet populations grew and declined in different regions at different times, likely reflecting regional climate shifts, disease, and warfare. "The entire continent is not in lockstep," Kelly said. For example, the population of Cahokia, which is situated near the confluence of the Mississippi and Missouri rivers, had an estimated population of more than 10,000 by A.D. 1100. Droughts are thought to have brought about a reduction in crops, population collapse, and migration to other regions, leading to the abandonment of Cahokia by 1350. Overall, the population of North America began to rebound around 1450, the researchers suggest, but was then decimated by disease, violence, and loss of territory following the arrival of Europeans.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: ancientautopsies; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; precolumbian
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To: SunkenCiv

Millions of illegals come to North America but the democraps say nothing about stolen lands then.


41 posted on 02/09/2025 3:34:46 AM PST by CodeToad ( )
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To: Jonty30

I read that there was a disease epidemic that spread throught North and South American that eradicated large populations before the arrival of the Europeans. It seemed to mirror the time of the bubonic plague in Europe.


42 posted on 02/09/2025 5:48:25 AM PST by odawg
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To: odawg

The theory is that Basque Fishermen, who were fishing off new England —brought the diseases before Columbus and Spanish Exploration. Its possible—there was contact before Columbus—we know of the Vikings—and their may have been many others. Oak Island imply lots of groups.


43 posted on 02/09/2025 5:53:40 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (. War is Hell, War IS a Crime.)
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To: SunkenCiv

According to an old book I have the carrying capacity of North America could not be more than one million people and probably far less. The tribes had a way of keeping themselves in “check”.
How the tribes treated each other before the White Man arrived.
https://archive.news.wsu.edu/press-release/2014/08/04/wsu-researchers-see-violent-era-in-ancient-southwest/#.U9_iumNjYzJ

https://www.science20.com/news_articles/the_most_violent_era_in_america_was_before_europeans_arrived-141847

Last days of the ancient Pueblos.
https://blairmastbaum.substack.com/p/the-terrifying-final-days-of-the
Crow Creek Massacre.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/9/crow-creek-massacre-in-1300s-remains-south-dakotas/
https://www.academia.edu/7907221/Mass_Grave_at_Crow_Creek_in_South_Dakota_Reveals_How_Indians_Massacred_Indians_in_14th_Century_Attack
Sacred Ridge Massacre.
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/massacre-sacred-ridge

Human sacrifice at Cahokia
https://www.ancientpages.com/2015/08/27/human-sacrifice-at-cahokia-victims-were-locals-not-foreign-captives/
Ancient Massacre Discovered in New Mexico — Was It Genocide?
https://lostworlds.org/ancient-massacre-discovered-in-new-mexico-was-it-genocide/
Anasazi Cannibalism
https://archive.archaeology.org/9709/newsbriefs/anasazi.html

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-antiquity/article/abs/additional-evidence-for-cannibalism-in-the-southwest-the-case-of-la-4528/FB7F8B0434EA3118B716AE84EC368DC8
Basketmaker II Cave 7: Massacre or Cemetery?
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0305440312000829

New Research Supports Theory of Ancient Massacre Site in Utah
https://www.cityweekly.net/BuzzBlog/archives/2013/09/11/new-research-supports-theory-of-ancient-massacre-site-in-utah
Massacre at Awatovi is little known act of genocide
https://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/trail_dust/trail-dust-hopi-massacre-at-awatovi-is-little-known-act-of-genocide/image_830b57c1-78ad-5775-8b72-ed47dd6aba23.html
How genocide wiped out a Native American population
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna39268873

Isotopic and genetic analyses of a mass grave in central California: Implications for precontact hunter-gatherer warfare
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26331533/
Buried with their MOTHERS’ SKULLS:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3280870/Why-4-300-year-old-bodies-buried-EXTRA-skulls-500-graves-unearthed-California-showing-signs-bizarre-burial-rituals.html
And who can forget the Cherokee Slave Rebellion of 1842.
https://www.okhistory.org/publications/enc/entry?entry=SL002

How Native American Slaveholders Complicate the Trail of Tears Narrative
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/how-native-american-slaveholders-complicate-trail-tears-narrative-180968339/
And not a white man around to blame it on for centuries.


44 posted on 02/09/2025 7:01:09 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: M Kehoe

I think it was....8675309! ;)


45 posted on 02/09/2025 7:13:31 AM PST by mdmathis6 (A horrible historic indictment: Biden Democrats plunging the world into war to hide their crimes!)
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To: DoodleBob

Don’t forget the rescued...wolf pup!

(and the friendly Sasquatch!)


46 posted on 02/09/2025 7:15:17 AM PST by mdmathis6 (A horrible historic indictment: Biden Democrats plunging the world into war to hide their crimes!)
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To: Bonemaker

Yep had early camping gear teepees.


47 posted on 02/09/2025 8:10:16 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: SteveH

The tribe that was near st Louis wasn’t really near the coast. Having water nearby was probably a factor.


48 posted on 02/09/2025 8:20:16 AM PST by brooklin
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To: logi_cal869
Re: DNA

There have been DNA mutation rates calculated for several indigenous North American groups.

Range: 18,000 to 24,000 years of residency, which fits well with the land/ice bridge theory for crossing the Bering Strait.

From memory - peak Bering Strait ice has been calculated to 20,000 years ago.

North American DNA has been linked to several northeast Asian groups, including Japanese.

South American DNA has been allegedly linked to Pacific Island DNA, but I do not think that has ever been confirmed by world class science journals.

On the other hand, during peak ice, there were probably hundreds of habitable Pacific Ocean islands between South America and southeast Asia that no longer exist.

49 posted on 02/09/2025 9:53:11 AM PST by zeestephen (Trump Landslide? Kamala lost the election by 230,000 votes, in WI, MI, and PA.)
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To: mdmathis6

Until an offspring from Sasquatch and a human is live-streamed, it’s a non-human (or a folklore).

The dog is closer to a human.


50 posted on 02/09/2025 10:21:26 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s² )
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51 posted on 02/10/2025 4:21:05 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: BobL

I heard that the native population of the entire new world went from 120 million to 6 million between 1492 and 1700.

The main factor was diseases that Europeans had become tolerant to after 10,000 years of trading the diseases back and forth with domesticated animals, vermin and bugs. The natives had not been living in such conditions and thus had no tolerance to the diseases and were wiped out in one fell swoop.

Another factor in the natives intolerance to disease is that since they didn’t have horses, prior to contact with the old world no disease could travel faster than a sick man on foot. This would mean that outbreaks of disease would most often burn themselves out in one community and not spread to others. In Europe after the domestication of horses, disease could travel as fast as a sick man riding a horse. This allowed diseases to jump from town to town and spread over entire regions.

When you are living in such primitive conditions as the natives were, the disease itself doesn’t necessarily have to kill everyone to decimate the population. For a family of 10 natives living a day to day hunter gatherer lifestyle, even if only the father succumbs to the disease, the disease in effect kills 10 people.


52 posted on 02/10/2025 5:14:13 AM PST by nitzy (I don’t trust good looking country singers or fat doctors.)
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