Posted on 01/20/2025 6:35:23 AM PST by Be Careful
Just wondering.....and wondering if the Military would have the appetite to do so, if able......if true treason was committed, the public needs to know
Since pardons are conjoined with reprieves and the sentence that is being reprieved must be specified, I say that so must the pardoned be specified, too.
This notion of Biden's that they are not guilty of anything but he's pardoning them anyway is an abuse of the power of the pardon.
-PJ
Military jurisdiction is separate from Federal jurisdiction.
Acceptance of a ‘pardon’ is de facto admittance of guilt...............
You don’t or the class gave you the wrong info. The president cannot pardon impeachments.
Treason can be pardoned (many pardons were issued after the Civil War). Impeachment cannot be pardoned.
If there is treason involved, then I should think he could be tried one way or the other. If not, then justice is still elusive.
When I was in the military, Thule, Greenland was always the hated assignment they talked about.
EXACTLY
Neither of those things will happen.
“Pleading guilty doesn’t mean that a prosecution CAN’T present evidence, does it?”
Kinda. There would not be a trial on guilt where a prosecutor would get the opportunity. A severe enough crime could have a trial for sentence only, but the question of guilt would not have to be proven so evidence of guilt likely would not be relevant.
It would be relevant to the victim. And if the victim sought civil damages a guilty verdict in a criminal trial would come to bear in the civil outcome, according to the scouts ruling saying the conviction would still stand
Lets see, how many of the J6 people are still imprisoned awaiting trial? Pardons carry an admission of guilt and therefore a specific crime is suggested. Charge him with something else.
“What will it take to end that?”
My opinion: The Lord has given President Trump and the country a second chance to turn this thing around.
If for any reason that doesn’t work, I’m afraid our experiment is over.
I may be wrong but that is my fear.
Yes, I posted the same thing on January 8th, but the other poster is a well-known liberal agitator.
It's an interesting read, though, if you follow the trail from my original post.
-PJ
Biden was not capable of judgment. All pardons ans executive orders and laws will be recinded
Yes and no, however in this instance it’s still a Federal pardon and the UCMJ is directly under Federal jurisdiction.
“ The power, which has historical roots in early English law,2 has been recognized by the Supreme Court as quite broad. In the 1886 case Ex parte Garland, the Court referred to the President’s authority to pardon as “unlimited”except in cases of impeachment, extending to “every offence known to the law” and able to be exercised “either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment.”
SOURCE:
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S2-C1-3-1/ALDE_00013316/
I wish you had been right but no.
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