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The Tone and Tenor of Free Republic (vanity)
Original Content | 12/30/2024 | By Laz A. Mataz

Posted on 12/30/2024 7:37:45 AM PST by Lazamataz

I've noticed, as of late, the quality of the arguments on Free Republic have declined. This is especially true as regards the H1B argument.

I have no intention of rehashing this argument, nor the points therein. I am speaking only to the tone and tenor of our forum participants.

Musk did us no favors by being so confrontational about this issue, and may have inadvertently sparked the furor. I fault him for that. I see he's trying to cool this down now, and that is to his credit.

However, it is my belief that the Deep State saw an opening and drove a wedge into it, to separate people on different sides of the argument, who normally would be backing Trump.

As I wrote elsewhere:

It's kinda amazing that the Deep State can ring a bell and we salivate like a Pavlovian dog.

You think we'd know better by now.

That point aside, repeatedly, I'm seeing a lot of posters lately are being rather personal as opposed to arguing the merits of their case. That behavior sheds a lot more heat than light.

It’s as if attorneys were to argue in court:

Atty 1: “Where’d you get your law degree, you fat loser? A crackerjack box? Your client is GUILTY and you are a blind FREAK if you can’t see that!”

Atty 2: “Oh, talk about blind! I understand you are a faggot in your personal life, too! Do you molest boys, you creep? YOU should be the one on trial!”

Judge: “Gentlemen, can we return to the facts of th...”

Atty 1: “Oh just shut the eff up, judge, and play with yourself under your robe, like you always do.”

Atty 2: “Yeah, shut up, you twatwaffle! I never liked you, now I know why!”

In short, I hope that people can dial things down a notch and present their cases with a lot less invective.

I myself have been guilty over the years of being nothing less than an online terrorist, but I do now see the errors of that path, especially here, where we are all one big family.

This is an important issue and we need to discuss it. I suggest we at least wait until our President is inaugurated, or, if it is important to discuss now, that we do so with a lot less invective. We are not Democrat Underground.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: areyouloggedin; freerepublic; h1b; hughandseries; tldr; vanity; youreinacult
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To: cuz1961
why not name names

You know who you are.

Although, for the record, I have had decent discussions with you before. I feel you might continue to be a good forum participant.

I just noticed that you seemed to reject the concept of increased civility on Free Republic, and that was odd, coming from you. Perhaps I didn't understand your point.

221 posted on 12/30/2024 11:18:16 AM PST by Lazamataz (The BEST birthday present I ever got WAS DONALD TRUMP WINNING IN 2024!!!)
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To: wildcard_redneck

“You are a ‘safe space’ Freeper. Do you need some validation, a hug and some hot cocoa to soothe your distress?”

It is comments like those, of yours, that register “distress”, not mine. Maybe you need a cup of hot cocoa or a hug.


222 posted on 12/30/2024 11:21:28 AM PST by Wuli
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To: wildcard_redneck
Over a 30 year IT career I have faced job discrimination, lost opportunities and depressed wages. This is personal to me and millions of other Americans in the IT field and we will not be shouted down and be told to shut up by anyone. I dare you to talk to anyone you know working in an IT field and then get back to me.

Ok. I'll get back to you right this second.

I *ALSO* work in the IT world, and am surrounded by H1B's. I am in continuous jeopardy from being replaced at any point by one of them. In fact, the only way I am surviving is by being a good manager of people, and by constant innovation. I've made a major mark for myself, for example, by instructing over 200 people throughout the company on how to leverage our inhouse AI. I'm being mentioned at the Director- and Senior VP-level.

So, to summarize: Yes, I share your concern and am faced with the same problem. However, I do not take my angst out on fellow Freepers. I suggest you consider doing likewise.

223 posted on 12/30/2024 11:24:01 AM PST by Lazamataz (The BEST birthday present I ever got WAS DONALD TRUMP WINNING IN 2024!!!)
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To: cuz1961

I saw, and responded.


224 posted on 12/30/2024 11:24:44 AM PST by Lazamataz (The BEST birthday present I ever got WAS DONALD TRUMP WINNING IN 2024!!!)
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To: Lazamataz

You are in an abusive relationship with your company and Suffer from Stockholm syndrome. Get help.


225 posted on 12/30/2024 11:25:56 AM PST by wildcard_redneck
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To: Lazamataz
You are either a better person then most of us or you can bend your knees quicker and easier to our globalist masters. The jury is still out on that.
226 posted on 12/30/2024 11:26:14 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: wildcard_redneck
You are in an abusive relationship with your company and Suffer from Stockholm syndrome. Get help.

You have perfectly encapsulated the issue this thread is about: Unwarranted and uninformed attacks.


227 posted on 12/30/2024 11:28:13 AM PST by Lazamataz (The BEST birthday present I ever got WAS DONALD TRUMP WINNING IN 2024!!!)
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To: Lazamataz

It is not an attack, it’s a accurate description.


228 posted on 12/30/2024 11:29:34 AM PST by wildcard_redneck
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To: Lazamataz

My Grandmother told me to not call people names.


229 posted on 12/30/2024 11:29:55 AM PST by kawhill (Did they say why Willard? Are my methods unsound?)
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To: central_va
You are either a better person then most of us or you can bend your knees quicker and easier to our globalist masters. The jury is still out on that.

Let me ask you something: Your inference that I give BJ's.... how exactly does that elevate the forum or address real concerns you may have (and that I share) about H1B abuse?

230 posted on 12/30/2024 11:30:06 AM PST by Lazamataz (The BEST birthday present I ever got WAS DONALD TRUMP WINNING IN 2024!!!)
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To: Lazamataz

bttt


231 posted on 12/30/2024 11:30:45 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: wildcard_redneck
It is not an attack, it’s a accurate description.

If you cannot see that your comment was an attack, then I cannot help you.

patriots.win. You will be right at home there.

You're welcome.

232 posted on 12/30/2024 11:31:38 AM PST by Lazamataz (The BEST birthday present I ever got WAS DONALD TRUMP WINNING IN 2024!!!)
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To: Lazamataz
Tell me Laz, do childless people really care what happens on Earth after they die? Or do you have even the sightest fear and guilt that we "breeders" have, a fear that we are leaving a hell on Earth for our kids and grand kids ?
233 posted on 12/30/2024 11:32:36 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Lazamataz

I am trying and failing badly to shock you into standing up.


234 posted on 12/30/2024 11:33:36 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: wildcard_redneck
BTW, I think I am done engaging with you, in any way. There seems to be no point. You can continue to mark up this thread in any way you wish. All that you will likely achieve is to serve as a perfect example of the topic of this thread.

Enjoy your day, and have a good New Years.

235 posted on 12/30/2024 11:34:30 AM PST by Lazamataz (The BEST birthday present I ever got WAS DONALD TRUMP WINNING IN 2024!!!)
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To: central_va; Lazmataz
"You are either a better person then most of us or you can bend your knees quicker and easier to our globalist masters. The jury is still out on that."

Laz just wants to corral us up and keep us quiet with his sad call for 'compassionate commenting.' His handle should be 'America Laz.'

236 posted on 12/30/2024 11:35:44 AM PST by wildcard_redneck
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To: central_va

Good analogy. And here’s the kicker, they keep telling us the main goal is deporting the illegals who just flooded in and that it’s a massive job.
A complete halt to the H1B program would free up all those Immigration Service employees to help with the deportations.


237 posted on 12/30/2024 11:36:25 AM PST by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI..)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Laz is good person. Misguided, but a good person.


238 posted on 12/30/2024 11:37:11 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va
I am trying and failing badly to shock you into standing up.

I appreciate you clarifying your motive. However, please understand that such implied messaging won't make me any more concerned about H1B abuse. It is already strongly on my radar.

I feel we have other issues to deal with first, but yes, this issue is real, it can effect me directly, and needs to be addressed.

Not the precise topic of this thread, though. The topic of this thread is the behavior we exhibit while participating in Free Republic.

239 posted on 12/30/2024 11:38:03 AM PST by Lazamataz (The BEST birthday present I ever got WAS DONALD TRUMP WINNING IN 2024!!!)
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To: cuz1961

This is the last gasp of the Country Club Republicans. They are trying to silence us with demands for self-censorship and restrictions on debate.


240 posted on 12/30/2024 11:39:11 AM PST by wildcard_redneck
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