Posted on 12/30/2024 7:37:45 AM PST by Lazamataz
I've noticed, as of late, the quality of the arguments on Free Republic have declined. This is especially true as regards the H1B argument.
I have no intention of rehashing this argument, nor the points therein. I am speaking only to the tone and tenor of our forum participants.
Musk did us no favors by being so confrontational about this issue, and may have inadvertently sparked the furor. I fault him for that. I see he's trying to cool this down now, and that is to his credit.
However, it is my belief that the Deep State saw an opening and drove a wedge into it, to separate people on different sides of the argument, who normally would be backing Trump.
As I wrote elsewhere:
It's kinda amazing that the Deep State can ring a bell and we salivate like a Pavlovian dog.
You think we'd know better by now.
That point aside, repeatedly, I'm seeing a lot of posters lately are being rather personal as opposed to arguing the merits of their case. That behavior sheds a lot more heat than light.
It’s as if attorneys were to argue in court:
Atty 1: “Where’d you get your law degree, you fat loser? A crackerjack box? Your client is GUILTY and you are a blind FREAK if you can’t see that!”
Atty 2: “Oh, talk about blind! I understand you are a faggot in your personal life, too! Do you molest boys, you creep? YOU should be the one on trial!”
Judge: “Gentlemen, can we return to the facts of th...”
Atty 1: “Oh just shut the eff up, judge, and play with yourself under your robe, like you always do.”
Atty 2: “Yeah, shut up, you twatwaffle! I never liked you, now I know why!”
In short, I hope that people can dial things down a notch and present their cases with a lot less invective.
I myself have been guilty over the years of being nothing less than an online terrorist, but I do now see the errors of that path, especially here, where we are all one big family.
This is an important issue and we need to discuss it. I suggest we at least wait until our President is inaugurated, or, if it is important to discuss now, that we do so with a lot less invective. We are not Democrat Underground.
You know who you are.
Although, for the record, I have had decent discussions with you before. I feel you might continue to be a good forum participant.
I just noticed that you seemed to reject the concept of increased civility on Free Republic, and that was odd, coming from you. Perhaps I didn't understand your point.
“You are a ‘safe space’ Freeper. Do you need some validation, a hug and some hot cocoa to soothe your distress?”
It is comments like those, of yours, that register “distress”, not mine. Maybe you need a cup of hot cocoa or a hug.
Ok. I'll get back to you right this second.
I *ALSO* work in the IT world, and am surrounded by H1B's. I am in continuous jeopardy from being replaced at any point by one of them. In fact, the only way I am surviving is by being a good manager of people, and by constant innovation. I've made a major mark for myself, for example, by instructing over 200 people throughout the company on how to leverage our inhouse AI. I'm being mentioned at the Director- and Senior VP-level.
So, to summarize: Yes, I share your concern and am faced with the same problem. However, I do not take my angst out on fellow Freepers. I suggest you consider doing likewise.
I saw, and responded.
You are in an abusive relationship with your company and Suffer from Stockholm syndrome. Get help.
You have perfectly encapsulated the issue this thread is about: Unwarranted and uninformed attacks.
It is not an attack, it’s a accurate description.
My Grandmother told me to not call people names.
Let me ask you something: Your inference that I give BJ's.... how exactly does that elevate the forum or address real concerns you may have (and that I share) about H1B abuse?
bttt
If you cannot see that your comment was an attack, then I cannot help you.
patriots.win. You will be right at home there.
You're welcome.
I am trying and failing badly to shock you into standing up.
Enjoy your day, and have a good New Years.
Laz just wants to corral us up and keep us quiet with his sad call for 'compassionate commenting.' His handle should be 'America Laz.'
Good analogy. And here’s the kicker, they keep telling us the main goal is deporting the illegals who just flooded in and that it’s a massive job.
A complete halt to the H1B program would free up all those Immigration Service employees to help with the deportations.
Laz is good person. Misguided, but a good person.
I appreciate you clarifying your motive. However, please understand that such implied messaging won't make me any more concerned about H1B abuse. It is already strongly on my radar.
I feel we have other issues to deal with first, but yes, this issue is real, it can effect me directly, and needs to be addressed.
Not the precise topic of this thread, though. The topic of this thread is the behavior we exhibit while participating in Free Republic.
This is the last gasp of the Country Club Republicans. They are trying to silence us with demands for self-censorship and restrictions on debate.
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