Posted on 12/25/2024 10:20:58 AM PST by marcusmaximus
President-elect Trump’s choice for special envoy to Ukraine and Russia, retired Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg, slammed the Russian military missile and drone attack on Christmas Day and said the U.S. is “more resolved than ever to bring peace to the region.”
“Christmas should be a time of peace, yet Ukraine was brutally attacked on Christmas Day,” Kellogg wrote Wednesday on social platform X. “Launching large-scale missile and drone attacks on the day of the Lord’s birth is wrong. The world is closely watching actions on both sides. The U.S. is more resolved than ever to bring peace to the region.”
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Says one obviously not old enough to have done "Duck and Cover" drills in elementary school.
“”””Russia has never posed an iota of threat against the US. So, Trump was clearly wasting his time.””””
LOL, you are posting that Trump is a fool to think Russia is a threat even as Russia is still engaged in the bloodiest European War since WWII, an invasion that Russia launched to conquer their neighbor for absorption into the empire, and new members are joining our protective NATO alliance with others seeking it and discussing it, and vast billions are being added to dozens of Russia’s neighbors military budgets to defend themselves better, even military drafts are being increased and discussed for implementation.
Yeah, he had to keep the GOPe (McConnell, Graham, Barr, Pence etc) in line for reelection. And he was just past getting impeached for even delaying aid to Holy Ukraine for 6 weeks.
Same for his bombing the Syrian Army in response to the gas attack hoax.
In reality, in his first term he had about a third of the power a president normally has due to GOPe treason.
Your education failed to teach you the difference between the Soviet Union and Russia. Russia, is the smaller country created when the Soviet Union collapsed and the US promised to not expand NATO to Russia’s border. So, you can read up on this. Russia is not the Soviet Union. By the way, as one who had those Duck and Cover drills, you might consider how moronic it is now for the US to launch missiles into Russia, with Russia having no way of knowing if they have nuclear warheads on them. And Russia has more nuclear missiles than we do. By all rights, they should send one to a NATO base or to whatever US commander ordered missiles shot at Russia.
The US started the war. US Diplomat George Kennan warned around 2002 that if NATO was continually moved toward Russia, as the US promised not to do, there would be war. What if Russia placed nuclear missiles and bioweapon labs in Toronto? What would the US do?
Like a Roasted Xmas Turkey,
YouCrayne is done.
Stick a Fork in YouCrayne.
I know that the Soviet Union and Russia are not exactly the same. (I also know that China pre-Tibet annexation and China post-Tibet annexation are not exactly the same.) I do know that Russia has the Soviet Union’s nuclear arsenal. I know that Ukraine did have nuclear weapons, but gave them to Russia in exchange for assurances that its sovereignty and territorial integrity would be respected.
Next.
That is a ridiculous and insulting dismissal of President Trump’s 4 years of national defense accomplishments in regard to our and Europe’s defenses against Russia.
You ignored post 42 and went off on other more vague opinion topics, for instance 2002 when Putin was fine with Ukraine choosing to join NATO if they wanted to, since they were their own nation.
Well, do you know how the Ukraine war that we started is going for the US? And for Ukraine? There would be no war if we had not expanded NATO. And Ukraine and Russia had a signed “treaty” in 2022 to end the war with no NATO and agreement on the borders. The US and UK nuked that deal. Ukraine had signed it. Oh well, the US wants every Ukrainian dead to prove how smart we are.
And, January 7th in Christmas Day for the vast majority of Christians, who are mostly Orthodox, in both countries.
This kind of propaganda undermines the peace process and I'm sure you and all your Zeeper buddies are happy about that.
All demonic scum you care about is $$$ and killing Russians.
Putin has never been fine with Ukraine in NATO. The US promised it would not expand NATO and then it did, about 5 or 6 or 7 times. And all for no reason except our Military Industrial Complex likes to sell lots of weapons. Russia has not been a threat at all since the end of the USSR. The US is the threat to world peace and security. See - US DOD and COVID pandemic and WHO mandates and how populations can be destroyed with fake vaccines.
No it is Russia that is destroying Ukraine and we are probably going to bankrupt ourselves and fight Russia as well if we do not help Ukraine.
“The US started the war.”
No the war was started by Russia. Nato moved closer to Russia as a result of their actions in Ukraine and not the other way around.
Prior to the invasion of Ukraine, the last nations bordering Russia that were admitted to NATO were Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia in 2004. The only other nations since then (orior to the Ukrainian invasion) were the small nations of Albania, Croatia, North Macedonia and Montenegro. They do not border Russia. Since the Ukraine War started, Finland and Sweden have joined NATO. I wonder why? /s
This is so much Muscovite reality denying bullshit.
There was more than one proposal to Gorbachev and Shevardnadze (USSR) including from West Germany as well as James Baker and George HW Bush that NATO wouldn’t expand into the Warsaw Pact region WHILE THE GEOPOLITICAL REALITY OF THE USSR REMAINED.
They both turned the proposal down (Gorbachev even admitted that on national television) because they did not want to openly admit that the USSR was months from collapsing so hard that Poland would shortly be able to tear up the Warsaw Pact, and stick two fingers up to Moscow.
It was a dumbass proposal. It would’ve made the USA look totally retarded. Turning down NATO applications in the basis that a superpower that had been abolished by its own members, still needed an ego boost.
FFS.
The promise was picked up by Putin but not one other country in the former USSR or Warsaw Pact has openly agreed with Putin.
He’s a liar, the rest aren’t.
And in 1972, we hit Hanoi with about 120 B-52s a night from Dec 18-29.
In WWII the record of the 8th Air Force on Dec 25th
“MONDAY, 25 DECEMBER 1944
EUROPEAN THEATER OF OPERATIONS (ETO)
STRATEGIC OPERATIONS (Eighth Air Force): Mission 761: 422 bombers and 460
fighters are dispatched to hit communications centers and rail bridges W of
the Rhine River; they claim 49-7-12 Luftwaffe aircraft; 5 bombers and 9
fighters are lost:
1. 248 B-24s are sent to hit communications centers at Hallschlag (41),
Prum (40), Pelm (37), Murlenbach (33), Pronsfeld (16) and Wahlen (12);
targets of opportunity are communications centers at Budesheim (21),
Hillesheim (12), Marmegen (11), Nettersheim (10) and Mechernich (9); they
claim 3-1-3 aircraft; 4 B-24s are lost, 3 damaged beyond repair and 92
damaged; 2 airmen are KIA, 4 WIA and 40 MIA. Escorting are 144 of 156 P-51s;
they claim 6-0-1 aircraft; 3 P-51s are lost (pilots MIA) and 2 damaged beyond
repair.
2. 174 B-17s are sent to hit railroad bridges at Ahrweiler (44) and Bad
Munster (9), the Kaiserslautern railroad (38) and the Hermeskeil Simmern
communications center and Marscheid railroad bridge (36); targets of
opportunity are railroad bridges at Bad Kreuznach (17) and Eller (11) and
other (1); they claim 0-0-1 aircraft; 1 B-17 is lost, 1 damaged beyond repair
and 36 damaged; 9 airmen are MIA. Escorting are 278 of 294 P-51s; they claim
40-6-7 aircraft; 6 P-51s are lost (pilots MIA) and 1 damaged beyond repair.
3. 10 of 10 P-51s fly a scouting missions without loss.
TACTICAL OPERATIONS (Ninth Air Force): Nearly 650 B-26, A-20s and A-26s hit
rail and road bridges, communications centers and targets of opportunity in W
Germany and the breakthrough area; fighters, including an Eighth AF group
loaned to the Ninth AF, escort the 9th Bombardment Division, fly patrols and
armed reconnaissance, and support the US III, VIII, and XII Corps along the S
battleline of the enemy salient from Echternach, Luxembourg to NW of
Neufchateau, Belgium.”
I don’t really care who started it. And I don’t really care who “wins”. They’re both hyper corrupt states with criminal thugs in power.
The correct thing to do is hope both sides lose.
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Russia has never been placed in charge of what countries can join NATO or any other national defense decisions they choose to make as free nations.
Putin in 2002. https://x.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/1844559042691334237
‘Ukraine is a sovereign state and has the right to choose the path to ensure its own security.
I don’t see anything unusual here in principle.
Or something that would spoil the relations between…
Or could possibly spoil relations between Russia and Ukraine.’
- Vladimir Putin at NATO Summit Meeting in Rome, Italy (May 28, 2002)”
The Zelensky team and the Biden Administration seem determined to provoke the Russians and do as much senseless destruction as they can before Trump takes office and daddy takes the T-Bird away.
The Biden/Zelensky strategy seems to be to generate as much carnage, anger and ill will as possible before Trump takes office to make a negotiated settlement as difficult and unpopular as possible and to saddle Trump with as big of a humanitarian disaster in post war Ukraine as they can engineer in the next month.
Zelensky knew exactly what he he was doing with the Grozny drone attack and got exactly the Russian response he and his Biden/NATO minders bargained for - a nice Christmas attack on his own country that destroys even more Ukrainian infrastructure for no good purpose.
Zelensky seems to be adopting the Hamas Pallywood strategy of provoking attacks against civilian targets to provide propaganda talking points of atrocities against civilians .
Kellog knows better but he really has no other choice but to condemn Russia.
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