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To: Kentfromohio

This is so much Muscovite reality denying bullshit.

There was more than one proposal to Gorbachev and Shevardnadze (USSR) including from West Germany as well as James Baker and George HW Bush that NATO wouldn’t expand into the Warsaw Pact region WHILE THE GEOPOLITICAL REALITY OF THE USSR REMAINED.

They both turned the proposal down (Gorbachev even admitted that on national television) because they did not want to openly admit that the USSR was months from collapsing so hard that Poland would shortly be able to tear up the Warsaw Pact, and stick two fingers up to Moscow.

It was a dumbass proposal. It would’ve made the USA look totally retarded. Turning down NATO applications in the basis that a superpower that had been abolished by its own members, still needed an ego boost.

FFS.

The promise was picked up by Putin but not one other country in the former USSR or Warsaw Pact has openly agreed with Putin.

He’s a liar, the rest aren’t.


56 posted on 12/25/2024 1:07:01 PM PST by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe" - Holmes to Watson, A Scandal in Bohemia)
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To: MalPearce

Victor Orban disagrees with you.


64 posted on 12/25/2024 1:55:52 PM PST by Kentfromohio
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