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This Is the Dark, Unspoken Promise of Trump’s Return
The New York Times ^ | Nov. 15, 2024, 5:04 a.m. ET | M. Gessen

Posted on 11/15/2024 7:52:27 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

For those bewildered by why so many Americans apparently voted against the values of liberal democracy, Balint Magyar has a useful formulation. “Liberal democracy,” he says, “offers moral constraints without problem-solving” — a lot of rules, not a lot of change — while “populism offers problem-solving without moral constraints.” Magyar, a scholar of autocracy, isn’t interested in calling Donald Trump a fascist. He sees the president-elect’s appeal in terms of something more primal: “Trump promises that you don’t have to think about other people.”

Around the world, populist autocrats have leveraged the thrilling power of that promise to transform their countries into vehicles for their own singular will. Vladimir Putin and Viktor Orban vowed to restore a simpler, more orderly past, in which men were men and in charge. What they delivered was permission to abandon societal inhibitions, to amplify the grievances of one’s own group and heap hate on assorted others, particularly on groups that cannot speak up for themselves. Magyar calls this “morally unconstrained collective egoism.” Trump’s first term, and his actions in the four years since, tracked the early record of Putin and Orban in important ways. Looking closely at their trajectories, through the lens of Magyar’s theories, gives a chillingly clear sense of where Trump’s second term may lead.

I called Magyar to ask about this pattern in the late winter of 2021, when it became clear to me that Trump would run for re-election. Magyar is Hungarian, and has extensively studied the autocracy of Orban. Like Trump, Orban had been cast out of office (in 2002, in a vote his supporters said had been fraudulent); he didn’t regain power until eight years later...

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“Liberal democracy,” he says, “offers moral constraints without problem-solving” — a lot of rules, not a lot of change — while “populism offers problem-solving without moral constraints.”

B.S.

Populists believe in limited government of, by and for the people.

The opposite of populism is elitism.

Elitists (AKA Liberal Democrats) believe in unlimited government of, by and for an entitled, hereditary, autocratic political/bureaucratic class.

1 posted on 11/15/2024 7:52:27 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Wow. More and more projection from the NYTs!

It is leftists who do not have and do not want moral constraints.

It is leftists who do not want to be constrained by "what was".

It is leftists who pile hate on others.

This goes so far opposite from reality it is beyond satire.

2 posted on 11/15/2024 7:56:13 PM PST by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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3 posted on 11/15/2024 7:57:46 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
What they delivered was permission to abandon societal inhibitions, to amplify the grievances of one’s own group and heap hate on assorted others, particularly on groups that cannot speak up for themselves.

Don't you love the liberals' abilities a projection.

4 posted on 11/15/2024 7:58:06 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: Dick Bachert

Land doesn’t vote.


5 posted on 11/15/2024 7:59:28 PM PST by Fuzz
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It appears M. Gessen’s response to the election is doubling down on self-importance.


6 posted on 11/15/2024 8:01:31 PM PST by cockroach_magoo (In the land of the deaf, the one-eared man is king.)
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7 posted on 11/15/2024 8:01:42 PM PST by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

We are NOT a Democracy!!!!!!!!!!!!! we are a REPUBLIC... “ We the PEOPLE”.........


8 posted on 11/15/2024 8:05:19 PM PST by pollywog (" O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: Fuzz

But it feeds you.


9 posted on 11/15/2024 8:08:44 PM PST by muskah (Loose lips sink ships)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Gaslighters.


10 posted on 11/15/2024 8:09:54 PM PST by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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“Trump promises that you don’t have to think about other people.”

Lib "thinking about other people" means thinking government should do "something," and then going off to have lunch.

11 posted on 11/15/2024 8:10:06 PM PST by Flag_This (They're lying.)
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To: muskah

Um. Wheat and corn 2028!


12 posted on 11/15/2024 8:10:49 PM PST by Fuzz
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To: marktwain
It is leftists who do not want to be constrained by "what was".

”Unburdened by what has been....”. Did this guy follow the campaign, at all?

13 posted on 11/15/2024 8:14:27 PM PST by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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Land doesn’t vote.

But states do, via the electoral college.

That's why we are call the United STATES and not the United Voters.

14 posted on 11/15/2024 8:14:48 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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...to amplify the grievances of one’s own group...
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Does every liberal hack writer have to work in the word "amplify"?

15 posted on 11/15/2024 8:15:50 PM PST by Yardstick
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...to amplify the grievances of one’s own group...

Evidently Mr./Mrs. Gessen as the case may be believes the purpose of government is to pit "intersectional" identity groups against each other.

16 posted on 11/15/2024 8:20:34 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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“Masha Gessen is a Russian-American journalist, author, translator. Gessen is nonbinary and trans and uses they/them pronouns.”

THIS is the dark, unspoken promise of M. Gessen: soulless transhumanism that delivers not liberation, liberty, or progress, but rather slavery, sickness physical and mental, death of the body in due time, and cursed second death, existing (not living!) in torment, apart from GOD for all eternity.

Sick, twisted, pitiful bastard.


17 posted on 11/15/2024 8:31:12 PM PST by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Sure does beat the Joe Pedo and the Jamaican VooDoo queen’s sh*t show. I guess Springstein is moving to Canada. President Trump has already begun making America great again. They can keep him.


18 posted on 11/15/2024 8:40:06 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Jamaicans Haitians and Indians used to run motels and 7-11s. Now,they run Congress and the judiciary)
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>> I guess Springstein is moving to Canada.

I hope so! Sing it with me!

GOOOOOONNE FROM THE USA!
GOOOOOONNE FROM THE USA!
GOOOOOONNE FROM THE USA!
(Bruce is) GOOOOOONNE FROM THE USA!

Die in Canada, if necessary by MAID, eh Bruce?


19 posted on 11/15/2024 8:43:51 PM PST by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: Nervous Tick

Excellent!


20 posted on 11/15/2024 8:45:03 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Jamaicans Haitians and Indians used to run motels and 7-11s. Now,they run Congress and the judiciary)
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