Posted on 10/02/2024 12:34:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
Microscopic granules of sweet potato starch (kūmara) have been discovered with Asia-Pacific taro and Pacific yam (uwhi) at Triangle Flat, a site located on the northern tip of New Zealand's South Island, according to an RNZ report. Researchers from the University of Otago – Ōtākou Whakaihu Waka determined that the Māori cultivated these crops as early as A.D. 1290 to 1385. "The first people who came here, came here to garden as well as to hunt things and they demonstrated from the outset that they were really sophisticated gardeners and they continued to be sophisticated gardeners over time," said archaeologist Ian Barber. It had been previously suggested that the first people to arrive in the islands had been hunter-gatherers who relied on hunting moa and seals. Barber explained that the weather in the area would have been cool, requiring the early farmers to experiment with growing different plants. "So they cut their teeth on all the crops, kūmara is the one that outperforms and becomes the big deal," he concluded. Read the original scholarly article about this research in Antiquity.
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Nah, it was New Kingdom in date, and the conventional chronology of that time is arfed up. Hence the puzzling over its actual origin date by people who buy into the pseudochronology.
Precolumbian Americans were apparently entirely type O, based on the prevalence among their usually multiethnic descendants.
Primary bloodtypes (ABO family, MN family) are coded (or not, in the case of O) on chromosome 9. Type A and Type O are identical apart from O missing the first base pair. Type A and B differ by something like 16 base pairs.
Now see you may have fallen into the “Ship” mentality trap my friend. Could the Vikings float without a “Ship”? They didn’t know how to make and use smaller boats? Only Ships? Since they only needed an axe, drill, hammer, and small hand made foundry to build boats, they could not just leave one at the bottom of the falls and build a new one above the falls? Or just many smaller boats at the top instead of a Ship? Or steal local canoes and smaller boats when needed? Same with any short portage point? Just build another boat on the other side rather than portage a whole Ship?
The Vikings+Ship only is a subconscious mental trap. What would we do if we were so capable and adept at building any kind of boat of any size from raw materials found everywhere? The Vikings used smaller boats for fishing and river navigation at home, why not abroad? I think they were much more intelligent and adaptive than we give them credit for. They would not have chained themselves to a ship and limited their own travel abilities.
I have thought about this a lot since the president of the maritime museum told me in an email “They could not have navigated the great lakes because they could not get their Ship past the falls”. I thought “What?, they permanently attached themselves to a Ship and could not leave it or travel without that particular Ship?”. :)
“Precolumbian Americans were apparently entirely type O, based on the prevalence among their usually multiethnic descendants.”
Precolumbian “South” Americans. North American Natives were a mix that can be traced back across the north to Eurasia. But there was an influx point of type O that originated from the West Coast of North America towards the east before it becomes adulterated with the types that were there first.
I found a university study years ago that had a map showing this ancient reality. I wish I could find both the study and the map I grabbed a copy of. It’s been ten years now, I have recently needed it a few times like this so I am going to keep looking. It had two maps, then and now to compare.
But when I studied that map I was blown away that there was only one other place besides the Americas and it was the tip of New Zealand. It was one of those Hmmm, how did that happen? moments.
“Nah, it was New Kingdom in date, and the conventional chronology of that time is arfed up.”
Yep I agree to a point. The claim is that they started it back then but stopped short of connecting it and abandoned it. Then later it was continued. But it was done before the Romans. Definitely used during the era of the Greeks before.
“At le ast as far back as Aristotle there have been suggestions that perhaps as early as the 12th Dynasty, Pharaoh Senusret III (1878–1839 BC), called Sesostris by the Greeks, may have started a canal joining the River Nile with the Red Sea. In his Meteorology, Aristotle wrote:
One of their kings tried to make a canal to it (for it would have been of no little advantage to them for the whole region to have become navigable; Sesostris is said to have been the first of the ancient kings to try), but he found that the sea was higher than the land. So he first, and Darius afterwards, stopped making the canal, lest the sea should mix with the river water and spoil it.”
“Strabo also wrote that Sesostris started to build a canal, as did Pliny the Elder (see quote further down).[11]
However, the canal was probably first cut or at least begun by Necho II (r. 610–595 BC), in the late 7th century BC, and it was either re-dug or possibly completed by Darius the Great (r. 550–486 BC). Classical sources disagree as to when it was finally completed.[citation needed]
Darius the Great’s Suez Inscriptions comprise five Egyptian monuments, including the Chalouf Stele,[12] that commemorate the construction and completion of the canal linking the Nile River with the Red Sea by Darius I of Persia.[13] They were located along the Darius Canal through the valley of Wadi Tumilat and probably recorded sections of the canal as well.[14] In the second half of the 19th century, French cartographers discovered the remnants of the north–south section of Darius Canal past the east side of Lake Timsah and ending near the north end of the Great Bitter Lake.[15]
Pliny the Elder wrote:
165. Next comes the Tyro tribe and, on the Red Sea, the harbour of the Daneoi, from which Sesostris, king of Egypt, intended to carry a ship-canal to where the Nile flows into what is known as the Delta; this is a distance of over 60 miles. Later the Persian king Darius had the same idea, and yet again Ptolemy II, who made a trench 100 feet wide, 30 feet deep and about 35 miles long, as far as the Bitter Lakes.[11]
Although Herodotus (2.158) tells us Darius I continued work on the canal, Aristotle (Aristot. met. I 14 P 352b.), Strabo (Strab. XVII 1, 25 C 804. 805.), and Pliny the Elder (Plin. n. h. VI 165f.) all say that he failed to complete it,[16] while Diodorus Siculus does not mention a completion of the canal by Necho II.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canal_of_the_Pharaohs#References
Great links! Thank you! Is that last one you?
In ‘68 I read “Chariots of the Gods” by Eric Von Daniken. I wasn’t so sure the buildings and megaliths and drawings in deserts that could only be seen from above were the work of aliens or not. But he did open my eyes to archeology sites I’d never heard of, and also how some architecture across thousands of miles were so similar. Still don’t know how stones weighing hundreds of tons were moved in many parts of the world. Maybe Von Daniken was right. So many mysteries of the past, makes for interesting reading and conversation.
Plenty of lumber around Niagara Falls area, the whole Northeast for that matter. The Vikings were skilled ship and boat builders, could have easily built practically any sailing vessel they needed. Camp out, plenty of game & fish & fresh water, and build a boat or ship, no problem.
The tops can be eaten as well as the tubers, they store well and are not as susceptible to fungus and rot as are potatoes.
Also LOTS of vitamin A.
Yep, absolutely... :)
Von Daniken wasn't right, but he did gather (I think for the first time in a popular title) descriptions of a lot of odd sites. At an early age he traveled with his family to Egypt. Helps to be born with a silver spoon.
Is such a thing even possible? Yes, it is.
> The claim is that they started it back then but stopped short of connecting it and abandoned it.
It’s a claim that makes no sense. It was begun, not completed, and centuries later completed? No.
Yup.
Can’t say for certain if he was right, wrong, or perhaps a bit of both. How does one explain the Nazca Lines and other geoglyphs? Easy enough to make simple straight lines long in length in sand and gravel, but intricate depictions? How others quarried, transported and arranged enormous stones has never been discovered, and in many parts of the world where travel and transport is not simple or easy. Perhaps our ancestors had secrets for moving enormous weights that our shining scientists of today can’t explain, and they did it without help or maybe not. It’s what mysteries do, they make us wonder and I think that’s a good thing.
Back in the late 70s an actual scientist working on the plateau found the models the original artists used and then scaled up. She also noted that the plateau was soft ground and joked that it would make a lousy runway to land on.
Quarrying and transporting stones is and obviously always has been well understood, and that makes the achievements of often apparently illiterate cultures that did it even more awesome.
Drilling stones was accomplished by using small stones with at least the same hardness, and turning or twisting them until the holes got drilled. They had the time, they didn’t have TV, movies, or the internet to distract them.
It’s ironic that in this era of labor-enhancing and time-saving technology we don’t appreciate the collective human genius.
There is no ship trap. The Vikings used ships, they portaged ships, and they didn’t think twice about it.
“Quarrying and transporting stones is and obviously always has been well understood”. Not really. We’re talking about stones weighing a hundred tons or more. Quarrying was probably the easy part, although not really very easy. How they were moved for miles sometimes and lifted into near perfect position and many times without mortar or cement onto walls and buildings is not really understood. There are only theories no concrete answers. Today we would use enormous cranes. They didn’t have that, and I doubt they could make them out of logs that would probably break, even if they had enough man power to use such a thing. If you know how it was done, and I really don’t mean to be rude, but I would like to know.
Great, now I’m hungry.
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