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We Watched Tim Walz’s Old Debates. Here’s What We Learned.
The New York Times ^ | Sept. 30, 2024, 9:34 a.m. ET | Katie Glueck, Kellen Browning and Nailah Morgan

Posted on 09/30/2024 3:19:25 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

Before he was known to the nation as an affable Midwestern dad and a vice-presidential nominee, Tim Walz was a fast-talking political long shot in an ill-fitting suit, spoiling, in his Minnesotan way, for a debate-stage fight.

As he stood next to his opponent — a crisply dressed six-term Republican congressman — Mr. Walz, a teacher by training, offered viewers a stark contrast at that 2006 debate, hosted by KSMQ-TV. Mr. Walz cast their choice as one between a political insider focused on “moving up in elected office” and the alternative he said he represented: “I live in the world that most of you live in.”

Nearly two decades later, Mr. Walz is the one who has moved up in elected office, rising from congressman to governor and now, Vice President Kamala Harris’s running mate. He is set to face Senator JD Vance of Ohio, former President Donald J. Trump’s running mate, in a high-profile debate on Tuesday.

Mr. Walz and his allies have tried to set expectations high for Mr. Vance, emphasizing his Yale Law School credentials. And Mr. Vance is a practiced verbal pugilist who seems to delight in combative exchanges on cable news and Sunday morning shows.

But a review of a half-dozen recorded debates over Mr. Walz’s career makes clear that while the camo-wearing, car-tinkering man from Mankato may not be his party’s most stirring speaker, he is in fact a seasoned debater himself.

He is capable of both delivering punchy criticisms and exuding the Everyman appeal that helped propel him to the Democratic ticket — it was Mr. Walz, after all, who memorably branded the Trump-Vance ticket as “weird.” At times, though, Mr. Walz has been knocked off-kilter, too...

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TOPICS: Humor
KEYWORDS: debate; jdvance; vancewalzdebate; walz
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What an embarrassing puff-piece.
1 posted on 09/30/2024 3:19:25 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I think Vance is going to destroy him.


2 posted on 09/30/2024 3:25:01 PM PDT by turfmann
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

He’s [Walz are closing in] is a Commie, Jim.


3 posted on 09/30/2024 3:25:20 PM PDT by Paladin2
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We all know who the Weirdo is....


4 posted on 09/30/2024 3:26:45 PM PDT by Paladin2
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Mr. Vance should ask Walz about the smell of burning tires, and if it turns it on as much as it does his wife.


5 posted on 09/30/2024 3:27:45 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The “weird” meme never stuck with Vance and in fact bounced right back on Walz, who is definitely the weirdest VP nominee we’ve had since Edmund Muskie.


6 posted on 09/30/2024 3:28:58 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (7,797,618 Truth | 91,192,773 Twitter)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I would not underestimate Walz’s ability to generate soundbites for consumption by independents and undecideds.

I suspect we will all think Vance will mop the floor with the goofball. But Walz is off the wall and a bit of a wild card.


7 posted on 09/30/2024 3:29:03 PM PDT by plain talk
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The CCP will be watching their boy Tampon Tim.


8 posted on 09/30/2024 3:29:10 PM PDT by dforest
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“exuding the Everyman appeal “

because the NYSlimes knows a lot about every man appeal


9 posted on 09/30/2024 3:29:16 PM PDT by God luvs America (6young 3.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

In their dreams.

Vance is going to destroy him in the debate.


10 posted on 09/30/2024 3:30:36 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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I think they are setting the tone so later they can say they predicted his abominable showing as skilled debate tactics.


11 posted on 09/30/2024 3:31:22 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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I somewhat agree. Like you I think they’re lowering the expectations, but IMHO it’s so they can say that Tampon Tim did better than expected.


12 posted on 09/30/2024 3:33:30 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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Yeah. There’s certainly some reason they are doing it. The left doesn’t do something for no reason, even if it doesn’t make any sense.


13 posted on 09/30/2024 3:37:07 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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To: turfmann

So do I.


14 posted on 09/30/2024 3:37:56 PM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: metmom

Here’s hoping.


15 posted on 09/30/2024 3:38:06 PM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Just keep calling him Tampon Tim.


16 posted on 09/30/2024 3:43:07 PM PDT by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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There have been recent news accounts stating that Waltz is fraught with fear at the prospect of facing Vance
in the upcoming debate. Now THAT story seemed to wreak as a fake plant story for the express purpose of trying to lower expectations for Waltz and indirectly trying to position Waltz as the David facing Goliath.

While I am completely confident in Vance, I have no doubt Waltz is a capable speaker. The only question in my mind is how the corrupt MSM will put their thumb on the debate scale.


17 posted on 09/30/2024 3:48:44 PM PDT by Obadiah
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

NY Times follows their endorsement of Kamala with a cheerleader piece for this con man clown.


18 posted on 09/30/2024 3:48:48 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Tell It Right

They had a similar article about what they claim they learned about Vance’s old debates.

They are definitely setting the atmosphere and trying to shape people’s expectations and opinions beforehand.


19 posted on 09/30/2024 3:57:38 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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Before he was known to the nation as an affable Midwestern dad …

Oh, God.

20 posted on 09/30/2024 4:03:28 PM PDT by HIDEK6 (God bless Donald Trump)
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