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More from Hitler fan Candace Owens new lies rewriting history
JustSayin' ^ | 08.18.24

Posted on 08/18/2024 7:54:15 PM PDT by Words Matter

Candace Owens Defends Hitler. Really. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfStkMY4ZII Ayn Rand Centre UK. July 12, 2024.

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AG @AGHamilton29 If you want to see just how insane and dishonest Candace Owens’ conspiracies are, just watch this 2.5 minute clip. There are 4 separate insane false conspiracies in that period.

Someone without a deep knowledge of events will watch this and think maybe she’s revealing some unknown history, when she’s really just connecting Wikipedia dots to promote some insane conspiratorial and antisemitic view of the world.

Thing is that the conspiracy she is repeating is one that has been around Neo Nazi circles for awhile which is 1) Where she gets all her stuff nowadays and 2) why it’s easy to debunk if you know it.

What is true:

- In 1904, Herzl asked the Pope to support a Jewish homeland in Israel. The Pope rejected it.

What is made up:

- There was no secret plot to get Protestants to support Zionism

- No evidence Zionists funded the Scofield Bible to get Protestants to back Zionism. The top funder for the Bible was Alwyn Ball Jr, a Christian real estate developer.

- Owens presents Scofield as some random poor pastor, but he was previously the US DA for Kansas, served in the Kansas State House and had plenty of political connections.

- The Lotos Club was not a Jewish club. It was a club of writers/artists/lawyers. In fact, almost none of the early officers of the club were Jewish.

- Owens claims Free Masons introduced Scofield to Samuel Untermyer who then got him into the Lotos Club. There is no evidence they even knew each other until after Scofield joined the Lotos club. SU was on the membership board of the literally committee and may have voted for Scofield’s entry, but that’s it.

- Owens mentions that Scofield was in Switzerland at the same time as the Zionist Congress. The Zionist Congress met in a completely different city every 2 years. This is to make you think there is a connection, but the Zionist Congress met in Basel Switzerland in 1905. Scofield was reportedly working on the Bible in Montreux Switzerland in 1904. Wrong year and wrong city.

- The Oxford Press agreed to publish the Scofield bible after Scofield met with the head of the Oxford Bible publishing house. None of the people involved, named below, were Jewish despite Owens framing it as a Jewish conspiracy.

- Owens claims Scofield had no professional background and just did it in a couple years. He actually started working on his reference bible in 1901. He was an accomplished lawyer and author before then.

I don’t expect any regular person to know or dig up any of this, which is what makes Owens so dangerous. She is repeating Neo-Nazi conspiracies that have been concocted over years based on random threads and someone just listening to this stuff may think there is something to it.

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Quote AG @AGHamilton29 · Aug 15 Replying to @stokevm Good luck following this one. It’s 4 different insane and invented conspiracies in a period of 2 minutes. Aug 15, 2024 https://x.com/AGHamilton29/status/1824249203331138012


TOPICS: History; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: antisemite; antisemitism; brownshirf; candaceowens; conspiracytheories; davidduke; faithandphilosophy; fakechristian; farrakhan; history; inventingstuff; neonazis; normanfinkelstein; racism; rewritinghistory; scofieldbible; stopantisemites; whatsherfrnick
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To: dforest
Owens isn’t a Hitler lover. Not by a longshot.

Several of these posters are using the wrap-up smear technique that Nancy Pelosi is famous for.

Just state something over and over again. Don't present any evidence thereof. Just state something that is possibly quite false.

81 posted on 08/19/2024 11:31:25 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If you are upset the bullet missed, contact me immediately. I'll make sure your bullet doesn't.)
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To: All

What do these two fascists: Kanye and Candace think Hitler would save their BLACK ass just because they kiss his???
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In other news:

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Candace Owens claims Hitler wasn’t the most evil, Mengele experiments ‘bizarre propaganda’
Former Daily Wire employee engages in more antisemitic conspiracy theories, claims the allies were worse than Nazis and the Holocaust was ‘ethnic cleansing’ rather than genocide.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/en/news/392895


82 posted on 08/19/2024 11:47:15 AM PDT by Milagros
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To: reasonisfaith

Thank you.


83 posted on 08/19/2024 11:49:17 AM PDT by TianaHighrider (God moved David to STAND UP to Goliath ❣)
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To: Milagros; dforest; Words Matter ; Freeleesy
Candace Owens claims Hitler wasn’t the most evil, Mengele experiments ‘bizarre propaganda’

Well there! The first hard evidence anyone has presented!

From what I am reading, though, it says Owens claims Hitler wasn't the most evil in the regime, Mengele was. While I dispute that, it is a far cry from defending Hitler.

It is akin to saying that robbery of $50,000 isn't quite as bad as robbery of $60,000.

84 posted on 08/19/2024 12:01:02 PM PDT by Lazamataz (If you are upset the bullet missed, contact me immediately. I'll make sure your bullet doesn't.)
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To: fireman15
I do not spend a lot of time following Candice Owens but from what I have seen over the years she appears to be a reasonable and sincere person. The character assassination she has faced from the followers of Ben Shapiro since their falling out seems both disingenuous and misguided.

Spot-on. And re your other comments: I was beginning to think that I was all alone on this. Thanks for the sanity check.

85 posted on 08/19/2024 12:08:53 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869; fireman15
Spot-on. And re your other comments: I was beginning to think that I was all alone on this. Thanks for the sanity check.

Flooding a forum with false claims in a Wrap-Up Smear will be more and more common, especially with LLM AI agents posting. Keep your eyes peeled.

86 posted on 08/19/2024 12:18:58 PM PDT by Lazamataz (If you are upset the bullet missed, contact me immediately. I'll make sure your bullet doesn't.)
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To: Lazamataz

The desperation to white wash Hitler is only PART of her overall obsession with this evil.


87 posted on 08/19/2024 12:27:13 PM PDT by Words Matter
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To: Words Matter
The desperation to white wash Hitler is only PART of her overall obsession with this evil.

She DID NOT whitewash Hitler. Her comments were that Hitler was less evil than Mengela. As I stated before, that is akin to saying that robbery of $50,000 is less evil than robbery of $60,000. Both are quite evil, but one is slightly less evil than the other.

So stop lying, already.

88 posted on 08/19/2024 12:33:47 PM PDT by Lazamataz (If you are upset the bullet missed, contact me immediately. I'll make sure your bullet doesn't.)
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To: reasonisfaith
Given the extent of lies we’ve been told, all accounts of history should be re-examined. If you trust your own judgment, there’s nothing to fear.

Who knows if you love Israel or not ?
Your first post, which you referred back to, seemed to be trying to rehabilitate someone who was so evil he committed genocide against the Jews.
89 posted on 08/19/2024 3:08:24 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: Words Matter
Were it not for Candace Owens “denying” Mengele’s atrocities

As I said previously... this is essentially the same as Joe Biden constantly claiming that President Trump said that Neo-Nazis were good people. You and others repeat the claim over and over without any substantiation... repetition does not make something true. I attempted to verify that Owens was denying Nazi war crimes and atrocities and was unsuccessful. I could find nothing other than a multitude of smear pieces without any real substance, which is the same as the multitude of hit pieces against President Trump.

90 posted on 08/19/2024 6:01:03 PM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: fireman15
I attempted to verify that Owens was denying Nazi war crimes and atrocities and was unsuccessful.

It only took me one search
Owens in her own words
91 posted on 08/19/2024 7:25:05 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: Pythion.net
Owens has been attacked by some powerful Jews for criticizing some of Israeli policies. They threatened to destroy her and probably got her fired from her job. She doesn't seem like the type of person to back down from threats. I haven't been following her for a while but I will look into this before passing judgment.
92 posted on 08/19/2024 7:27:07 PM PDT by Rdct29 (The Democrats Are The New Nazi Party )
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To: Lazamataz

Indeed.


93 posted on 08/19/2024 8:24:39 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: af_vet_1981
It only took me one search

I looked over a bunch of similar links. The link you provided contained links to a couple of short, probably creatively edited, out of context clips where it is impossible to determine what she is even talking about. It appears that she was trying to make some type of point but everything relevant was cut out to the point that it is impossible to figure out what the point was. The clips did not support the headline.

Do you want to provide you with links where President Trump got the same type of treatment?

94 posted on 08/19/2024 11:48:33 PM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: Pythion.net

Here Ya Go
Rumble
Candace Owens exposing the Zionist Sabbatean Frankists Cult
https://rumble.com/v5bjej9-kandace-owens-exposing-the-zionist-sabbatean-frankists-cult.html

A LARGE Tumble Of Whisky is recommended.


95 posted on 08/20/2024 8:45:45 AM PDT by Valin
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To: T.B. Yoits

Because some people have lied to you, you now want to fall for disproven conspiracies to feel sophisticated?


96 posted on 08/26/2024 4:14:03 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: logi_cal869

He is evil for calling out the lies that Candace is using?


97 posted on 08/26/2024 4:15:07 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: BitWielder1
Candace is not stupid. She's putting everything on the line here. She is well worth listening to. We must not let her be canceled or silenced.
So she not only has the right to lie poorly, but to be above reproarch, rebuke, and correction, because you have a conspiracy theory?
98 posted on 08/26/2024 4:16:45 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: rmlew
Because some people have lied to you, you now want to fall for disproven conspiracies to feel sophisticated?

Disproven by whom?

As for "feeling sophisticated", it's quite the opposite. The biggest lie they tell you is "it's not that simple".

One minute and nine seconds from the movie "Bleed For This".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZbT9x7e1Vk

99 posted on 08/26/2024 4:30:45 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: T.B. Yoits

Read the article.


100 posted on 08/26/2024 5:14:16 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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