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Have the climate change promoters ever used the actual scientific method?

Posted on 07/16/2024 10:15:24 PM PDT by pigeoninthepark

So I was thinking recently about how the man-made climate change promoters discuss the topic like a proven fact on the scientific level. I then remembered what the scientific method involves:

1. Ask a Question 2. Do Background Research 3. Construct a Hypothesis 4. Test Your Hypothesis by Doing an Experiment 5. Analyze Your Data and Draw a Conclusion 6. Communicate Your Results

Notice step 4: "Test Your Hypothesis by Doing an Experiment"

Has this ever been done? Every time I see this topic pushed around as fact, I never ever hear about tests on any scale being done to back up their argument. Obviously we cannot make a perfect replica of the earth on any scale, but I have never even heard of one test done in a lab, or some greenhouse experiment using plants, lights and carbon, or even some computer simulation. Maybe I am wrong and there have been tests done, but if so then why have I never heard of these?


TOPICS: Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: answerisobviouslyno; climatechange; climatechangehoax; cop26; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; greennewdeal; newbievanity; no; noobvanity; panicporn; theanswerisno; vanity
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To: DoodleBob

We live in NH and I agree.

Last night we got a great thunderstorm that gave us some very much needed rain.

My garden is doing FANTASTIC this year. I got my tomatoes in early and they are already ripening. Never had it happen this early. Looks to be a bumper crop.


41 posted on 07/17/2024 4:26:56 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: pigeoninthepark
The Climate Change cultists think they have proven there is manmade climate change underway when all they have is about 150-200 years or so of empirical weather data. This is nothing compared to the age of the Earth.

To draw firm conclusions on global temperature movements, they actually need millions of years of data.
42 posted on 07/17/2024 4:29:05 AM PDT by Dan in Wichita
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To: pigeoninthepark

Climate change “scientist” use computer generated models. They plug their opinions and emotions into these models, not fact, hit the button see what the result is and see how much money will be provided to fix the problem based on the climate cultist reactions. If the reaction isn’t producing the money needed and the climate cultist aren’t freaked out enough, they change their opinions, recalculate and hope for a better reaction.

It’s all very scientific!!


43 posted on 07/17/2024 4:34:00 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: timestax

😃


44 posted on 07/17/2024 4:34:48 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: DoodleBob

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_models_are_wrong


45 posted on 07/17/2024 4:37:56 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51
Ah, but the follow up is better:

All models are approximations. Assumptions, whether implied or clearly stated, are never exactly true. All models are wrong, but some models are useful. So the question you need to ask is not "Is the model true?" (it never is) but "Is the model good enough for this particular application?"

46 posted on 07/17/2024 4:57:39 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DoodleBob

Agreed. All models are wrong, but some are useful.


47 posted on 07/17/2024 5:06:33 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: pigeoninthepark

Man made CO2 accounts for 5% of the atmospheric CO2.

Why does this 5% cause climate change but the other 95% does not?

EC


48 posted on 07/17/2024 5:15:10 AM PDT by Ex-Con777
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To: pigeoninthepark

they use computer simulations as their test


49 posted on 07/17/2024 5:25:54 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: pigeoninthepark

As the real truth about the fabrication and distortion of the data related to Global Warming/Climate Change has become more widely known vis-a-vis CO2, the purveyors of the scam have begun to switch gears. Methane is the new bugaboo. You can expect increases in new “studies & research” with regard to this new “existential threat to life on this planet”. Cow farts notwithstanding, most methane is released in fluctuating amounts due to decomposition of organic material and volcanic activity, which humans have virtually no influence upon.


50 posted on 07/17/2024 5:27:39 AM PDT by Rlsau1
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To: pigeoninthepark
"... the actual scientific method?

Your opening premise is flawed. There is no single, universally-accepted "scientific method."

51 posted on 07/17/2024 7:18:23 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: pigeoninthepark

They experimented using their models, which were constructed to give the answer they wanted.


52 posted on 07/17/2024 7:22:26 AM PDT by MortMan (Charter member of AAAAA - American Association Against Alliteration Abuse)
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To: All

A trap some fall into is looking at very long-term trends on geological scales, and it always makes warming 1980 to present look very insignificant. Possibly on said time scales, it is insignificant.

A better scaling for modern warming can be seen on any comparison of 30-year averages for past 15-20 cycles (150-200 years moving forward ten years at a step). If you google CET hadley download, you’ll find a good example. The important question is, will upward trend 1980-2006 reappear or are there natural limiting factors to suppress warming past 2.0 C? If so, we are about to see them, unless we get major volcanic activity or a greater solar shutdown than seen so far.

I feel those natural limiting factors probably exist but we don’t yet understand them because we have not seen them working yet. Some believe a weakening of Atlantic currents will be a major example allowing greater winter blocking and occasionally very cold winters as was normal in colder portions of recent data. A concept of a runaway greenhouse effect like Venus experienced is not the only theory in play by any means.


53 posted on 07/17/2024 4:16:52 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (A conspiracy theory is usually a fact that a leftist cannot endorse)
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To: monkeyshine

They cannot do what God has always done. That doesn’t mean they will give up trying, it seems.


54 posted on 07/18/2024 5:39:38 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: monkeyshine

They cannot do what God has always done. They don’t know what the correct temperature should be. That doesn’t mean they will stop trying; at our expense of course.


55 posted on 07/18/2024 5:43:48 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: monkeyshine

They cannot do what God has always done. They don’t know what the correct temperature should be. That doesn’t mean they will stop trying; at our expense of course.


56 posted on 07/18/2024 5:44:30 AM PDT by oldtech
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