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Homeowner frustrated after stubborn neighbor's construction destroys 150-year-old tree on their property: 'You need to consult with a lawyer'
The Cool Down ^ | June 30, 2024 | Doric Sam

Posted on 06/30/2024 9:40:13 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

A Minnesota homeowner was left searching for answers after a neighbor's construction had a devastating effect on a tree on their property that had stood for over a century.

One Redditor explained their story and provided a photo of the 150-year-old oak tree that was damaged by their neighbor's carelessness in the r/treelaw subreddit recently.

The neighbor began construction and excavated for a "massive, side-by-side duplex they're building." While the user was fine with the trimming of a large branch on their tree, they noted that the neighbor "also excavated out approximately 1/3 of its root system."

The destruction of the tree's root system meant that the tree would require an eventual removal, as the user "had an arborist come out and he pointed out that some of the main roots had been severed and it was likely going to start a quick decline over the next year or so."

The user attempted to get the neighbor to remove the tree in full and compensate them with $500 for their loss, but that was ignored, so the user asked for advice on how to move forward.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Agriculture; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: constructiondamage; neighborconstruction; tree; treedamage
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What's missing from this story is if the 1/3 root system was on/under the neighbor's property. If so, sorry about the tree as IMHO the owner has a right to clean up his property for building purposes.

However, this is Minnesota.

1 posted on 06/30/2024 9:40:13 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

The new neighbor had best not park any nice vehicles outside...


2 posted on 06/30/2024 9:42:16 PM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

In my state, you have the absolute right to remove the root system from your own property, even if it destroys the tree. Don’t know the law in Minnesota.


3 posted on 06/30/2024 9:43:48 PM PDT by TheConservator (To bar Trump from the presidency, libtards are happy to trash 235 years the rule of law)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I’m wondering the same thing. Roots run as deep as the tree is tall. And as wide underground as above ground.


4 posted on 06/30/2024 9:49:35 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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OK, so this tree is clearly on the property line and therefore the roots encroach into (under) the neighbors property. I'm sorry the tree is going to die, but I side with the neighbors.

5 posted on 06/30/2024 9:53:13 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Of course this story is about someone from Reddit, which means you’re not getting all the facts, and that the complainer is just a wild loon of sorts.


6 posted on 07/01/2024 2:30:37 AM PDT by KobraKai
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To: Responsibility2nd

>> I’m sorry the tree is going to die, but I side with the neighbors.

But but but they have a LOVE sign in the window! Because progress! And it’s a TREE for pete’s sake! Sacred! Clearly the whinin... er, complaining neighbor is in the right, because wokeness!

(My goodness! Can you say ZERO LOT LINE? lol)


7 posted on 07/01/2024 2:59:45 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

The advisors allowed him onstage for more than three minutes, and without a teleprompter. Clear political malpractice.


8 posted on 07/01/2024 3:06:19 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: sphinx

what?


9 posted on 07/01/2024 3:35:41 AM PDT by ronniesgal (have you even tried to mind your own business?)
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To: Responsibility2nd

In the picture, it appears that the existing house already wiped out 40% of possible rut space for the tree, so perhaps the existing homeowner should have torn down his house and restored his land once the neighboring lot was sold, so that the tree could live.


10 posted on 07/01/2024 4:18:48 AM PDT by BobL
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Oops. Wrong thread. I thought I was responding to a post about Obama’s advisors blowing it on the debate.


11 posted on 07/01/2024 4:36:01 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

So hateful to kill an old oak tree. We need millions more trees planted to beautify and oxygenate the world. The anti- CO2 zealots should be doing this, instead of forcing taxpayers to blow trillions on harebrained solar and wind projects. Via tax breaks and subsidies. EV tax breaks too.


12 posted on 07/01/2024 4:44:57 AM PDT by dennisw (Why is the rabbit unafraid? Because he's smarter than the panther.)
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To: sphinx
Oops. Wrong thread. I thought I was responding to a post about Obama’s advisors blowing it on the debate.

Sphinx, for the good of the party and more importantly for the good of your country we think it’s best that you not be president anymore. You can still have ice cream but you have to step down.

13 posted on 07/01/2024 4:50:55 AM PDT by IncPen ("Inside of every progressive is a Totalitarian screaming to get out" ~ David Horowitz)
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So hateful to kill an old oak tree. We need millions more trees planted to beautify and oxygenate the world.

I'm not sure if this is sarcasm or you are series.

Either way, take a drive through PA and then say we need more trees.

We have more trees than we did 100 years ago.

As joe says, "No joke".

14 posted on 07/01/2024 5:30:50 AM PDT by USS Alaska (NUKE ALL MOOSELIMB TERRORISTS, NOW.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
The article is so poorly written that it doesn't name the town this occurred in. It appears the neighbor doing construction dug right up to the property line despite any setback the town may have.

Minnesota Statutes
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/561.04

561.04 TRESPASS; TREBLE DAMAGES.

Whoever without lawful authority cuts down or carries off any wood, underwood, tree, or timber, or girdles or otherwise injures any tree, timber, or shrub, on the land of another person, or in the street or highway in front of any person's house, city lot, or cultivated grounds, or on the commons or public grounds of any city or town, or in the street or highway in front thereof, is liable in a civil action to the owner of such land, or to such city or town, for treble the amount of damages which may be assessed therefor, unless upon the trial it appears that the trespass was casual or involuntary, or that the defendant had probable cause to believe that the land on which the trespass was committed was the defendant's, or that of the person in whose service or by whose direction the act was done, in which case judgment shall be given for only the single damages assessed. This section shall not authorize the recovery of more than the just value of timber taken from uncultivated woodland for the repair of a public highway or bridge upon or adjoining the land.

15 posted on 07/01/2024 5:41:44 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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" on the land of another person,"

The way I read this is that the neighbor would have to injure the tree on the owner's land, he can injure the tree on his own land. Didn't see the term "setback" in the statute. That said, if the owner can show the neighbor pulled roots from the owner's land thereby injuring the tree he may have a case.

But the last line of the statute is interesting: This section shall not authorize the recovery of more than the just value of timber taken from uncultivated woodland for the repair of a public highway or bridge upon or adjoining the land.

And since the owner still has the tree he therefore has the just value of the lumber.
16 posted on 07/01/2024 5:55:00 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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The way I read this is that the neighbor would have to injure the tree on the owner's land, he can injure the tree on his own land.

You can't willfully cause loss to a neighbor without facing repercussions.

This is a tort at minimum; the construction neighbor caused a loss to the neighbor with the tree who's now forced to pay for removal of the tree. Nature doesn't follow property lines and the construction neighbor can't argue that it was an unforeseen event. Of course, the poorly written article doesn't mention any variances or issues identified when the permits were filed.

I mentioned the setback because, depending on the town, the construction neighbor may not be able to justify digging right up to the property line, even for a retaining wall. While a setback is for buildings, it can also be for any construction, including driveways, depending on local laws. The tree might have survived if the digging wasn't right up to the line.

On a related note, if the tree had fallen on the excavation crew, the excavation company and the construction homeowner would be responsible for the deaths and/or injuries.

17 posted on 07/01/2024 6:09:50 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: USS Alaska

I am very pro tree planting. I have fruit trees on my property. I am aware that New England is more forested than 100 years ago/ The USA has zillions of dry acres of land where trees should be planted and drip irrigated for 5 years to start them off.

Israel is very big on planting trees to make the deserts into tree-scapes as much as possible


18 posted on 07/01/2024 6:24:26 AM PDT by dennisw (Why is the rabbit unafraid? Because he's smarter than the panther.)
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This is a tort at minimum; the construction neighbor caused a loss to the neighbor with the tree who's now forced to pay for removal of the tree.

So the owner's tree encroached upon the neighbor's property, what rent or fees did the owner pay for that use of said property?

The owner could have controlled the tree's roots keeping them on his property.

The best Root memes :) Memedroid

As I said sorry for the tree but IMHO subject to an easement the neighbor has the rights to clear his property.
19 posted on 07/01/2024 6:26:02 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: T.B. Yoits
It appears the neighbor doing construction dug right up to the property line despite any setback the town may have.

Perhaps there are no setback lines. See the picture in post 5. It looks like the house is 5 feet away from the property line. Although the house looks 100 years old and could have been built before setback lines.

20 posted on 07/01/2024 7:13:59 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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