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Sundowning: Late-day confusion
Mayo Clinic ^ | Unknown | Jonathan Graff-Radford, M.D.

Posted on 06/30/2024 2:57:43 PM PDT by Eli Kopter

I've heard that sundowning may happen with dementia. What is sundowning and how is it treated? Answer From Jonathan Graff-Radford, M.D. The term "sundowning" refers to a state of confusion that occurs in the late afternoon and lasts into the night. Sundowning can cause various behaviors, such as confusion, anxiety, aggression or ignoring directions. Sundowning also can lead to pacing or wandering.

Sundowning isn't a disease. It's a group of symptoms that occurs at a specific time of the day. These symptoms may affect people with Alzheimer's disease and other types of dementia. The exact cause of sundowning is not known.

Factors that may worsen late-day confusion Fatigue. Spending a day in a place that's not familiar. Low lighting. Increased shadows. Disruption of the body's "internal clock." Trouble separating reality from dreams. Being hungry or thirsty. Presence of an infection, such as a urinary tract infection. Being bored or in pain. Depression.

(Excerpt) Read more at mayoclinic.org ...


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KEYWORDS: alzheimers; biden; bidensalzheimers; bodyclock; chat; dementia; health; hunger; lowlighting; prezdebate; senilejoe; sundowning
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To: Mean Daddy

yep, exactly

the “calling a lid” for the day
the sunglasses
the special shoes
the long periods where he disappears to Delaware

It is all related to his dementia


21 posted on 06/30/2024 4:43:50 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: joshua c

Exactly right. For a dementia patient, today is the best it’s ever going to be. That is a tough reality for many to accept...they always have hope that the person will get better.


22 posted on 06/30/2024 4:53:20 PM PDT by RightField (It)
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To: Eli Kopter

I’m sure that is their intent, but…easier said than done. How do you depose a president who refuses to leave?


23 posted on 06/30/2024 6:33:20 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative. )
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To: Eli Kopter

One of the networks showed him at an event after the debate and he was the normal Joe. Strong voice and seemed much more with it. Weird.


24 posted on 06/30/2024 6:34:01 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: joesbucks

During the debate I think he was overstimulated.

He had voices talking in his ear, imho he had contact lenses with video feeds and then he had notes as well.

With dementia under the right conditions the brain just “shuts off”—sometimes for a second or two, sometimes for much longer.

Then it can snap back.

It drives relatives crazy—because they never know what to expect at any given moment.


25 posted on 06/30/2024 6:38:21 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: joesbucks

Earlier in the day and he had his Teleprompter to tell him what to say.


26 posted on 06/30/2024 6:54:04 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Democrats' version of MAGA: Making America the Gulag Archipelago. Now with "Formal Deprogramming")
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To: Stosh

Yes, those perpetual noon, or 2 PM “lids” throughout the campaign.

This was used as a feature, where the media could clean up anything he said, and celebretize him without risk of his interfering with their crafted image of him.


27 posted on 06/30/2024 8:21:27 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Eli Kopter

Yes, it’s called “sundowners syndrome” and it’s likely that Biden has been suffering from it for a few years. It’s a type of dementia that’s often associated with Alzheimers disease. From the Mayo Clinic web site:

“The term “sundowning” refers to a state of confusion that occurs in the late afternoon and lasts into the night. Sundowning can cause various behaviors, such as confusion, anxiety, aggression or ignoring directions. Sundowning also can lead to pacing or wandering.”

If this is indeed what Biden is dealing with, and I believe it likely (and those of you who have friends or loved ones with dementia know exactly what I’m talking about), then covering it up is a crime of treasonous proportion against our country.


28 posted on 06/30/2024 9:01:21 PM PDT by The_Harlequin (…the time will arrive when you will learn to judge for yourself of what is going on in the world, wi)
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To: Eli Kopter
Sometimes I think it's a shame
When I get feelin' better when I'm feelin' no pain.

Sundown, you better take care
If I find you bin creepin' round my back stairs.
Sometimes I think it's a sin
When I feel like I'm winnin' when I'm losin' again.

-PJ

29 posted on 06/30/2024 9:04:24 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

She’s been lookin’ like a queen in Joe Biden’s dream
And he don’t even care that she’s just 13
Scumbag, you better take care
If I find you’ve been sniffin’ my daughter’s hair


30 posted on 06/30/2024 9:13:35 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: EvilCapitalist
I've seen it with my mom, who just turned 95.

Blocking the door, seeing people by my car in the driveway...

Hasn't been doing that lately though.

Now she literally sleeps 24-48 hours, then up sometimes same. Often times during the awake periods she'll have full conversations, sometimes with multiple people...who aren't there. Some sound like strangers, others relatives(long gone)

The bad days her whole demeanor changes, her face is sunken in, walks like a hunched over b-rate movie monster... and she is a lot more delusional. Spends 24 hours moving(hiding) things...yelling at ghosts she claims are stealing her stuff, asking where all these kids came from, don't their mothers know they're here? Yelling at them to go home.

Lately that isn't as bad as it was...now she occasionally laughs at them, has "quieter" conversations.

She uses rolls of TP, find it hidden all over. Mixes all sorts of things in grocery bags(whatever she finds) and sometimes manages to mix them with cat litter(right from the box).

Man, I could write a book.

Memory care in a nursing home around here is around 8k a month.

It's stressful, as I'm not exactly young either, and being my mom...it's hard to watch the decline 24/7.

I've known and read about others who have experienced it. That it sometimes gets...violent.

If it gets to that stage...I'm out.

31 posted on 06/30/2024 9:37:53 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Time to throw them out of the Temple...again)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

They are. They come from Media Matters for America.


32 posted on 06/30/2024 10:03:09 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Rastus
😀

-PJ

33 posted on 06/30/2024 10:18:24 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Eli Kopter

The Dems are betting on a recession, at least - if not a full depression, in the economy - and want Trump in office to blame it on him.

Bet.


34 posted on 07/01/2024 5:32:06 AM PDT by ro_dreaming (Who knew "Idiocracy", "1984", "Enemy of the State", and "Person of Interest" would be non-fiction?)
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To: Eli Kopter

Sundowning is one of my wife’s symptoms resulting from her COVID vaxx reaction.

She and I both recovered from COVID in November 2020, before the vaxx came out. I told her that we would not need it, having natural immunity, and declined to take it. She chose to Believe MSNBC, Fauci and Biden instead. Within ten days after her third jab she developed Parkinson’s type symptoms, loss of balance and bouts of dementia. She had several falls, one of which resulted in surgery for an elbow fracture. She’s now in long term care; the meds slow the progression but show no improvement. She’s had COVID twice more. I have not had it, even in close contact with her while infected.

And we can’t even sue the b@$t@rd$! When President Trump takes office, I hope he will remove the restrictions on suing the vaccinazis for the damage they’ve caused.


35 posted on 07/01/2024 8:27:10 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH! )
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To: RckyRaCoCo
Memory care in a nursing home around here is around 8k a month.

We're paying $12k. Where are you?

36 posted on 07/01/2024 8:33:23 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH! )
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To: RckyRaCoCo

Good post—what the “political experts” are missing is the weirdness of dementia.

Biden could do just about anything at any moment—without warning.

After a few months of crazy the caregivers become both wacked out and agitated.

This is probably happening now with the senior WH staff.

:-)

P.S. At age 95 my senile mother attacked my father with a knife and wounded him. The police arrived and arrested her. An ambulance took him to the hospital. We were not on site. Even though we were family members it took a “Better Call Saul” junkyard dog attorney more than a month to get the police records released to us.

Hired caretakers were in another room at the time and heard his screams. They were the ones who called the police.

From the police report—upon her arrest my mother was belligerent and said she had done nothing. She also yelled:
“If you don’t believe me, kill me.”

Welcome to crazy-land.


37 posted on 07/01/2024 8:36:12 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: JimRed

I am sorry you and your wife had to go through all of this. It was a very expensive lesson, which your cost was higher than most.


38 posted on 07/01/2024 8:40:01 AM PDT by Eli Kopter
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To: JimRed
Michigan...it varies I'm sure, but they all hover around that 8K.

Of course that's without actually seeing the person, and knowing their individual needs.

Once they do, that figure could skyrocket I'm sure...that's just a base figure.

Personally I think that (8-12k per month) is ridiculous...but same can be said about a lot of things these days.

What do these facilities offer that I cannot...other than drugs to perhaps turn the individual into a mannequin.

39 posted on 07/01/2024 9:21:55 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Time to throw them out of the Temple...again)
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To: cgbg
Wow, that's crazy(no pun intended)

My elderly neighbor had ear surgery (related or not) and soon after developed rapid dementia. His wife had also been sick, but hers were all physical ailments. Their son had hired visiting angels for 24/7 care for both.

One day I get a call from his (elderly neighbor) wife (barely understandable as she had had a stroke + a British accent). Seeing as I could not understand what she was saying I told her I'd just come over.

As I walked to the door her husband had this poor 5' tall visiting angel gal by the hair, as SHE was trying to stop him from going out the door. I calmly asked him to let her go, and let's just sit down on the couch and talk. He complied.

I sat down first and as I watched him begin to sit down next to me I noticed he had a BIG kitchen knife in the back of his pants...I quickly pulled it out before he sat down.

That situation probably would have got nasty real quick had I not been around to take her call.

Their son was a real a-hole. Remember him telling me his parents had always given him and his brother everything they wanted growing up. Shortly after that incident he decided he no longer wanted to pay for services(or deal with his parents...well, shortly there after, he did).

Just before covid his dad was put in the hospital a few times for his uncontrollable behavior. That I could understand. He unfortunately passed away during one of those visits.

About a year later, just when covid was ramping up, and after he (son) had probably put everything his parents owned in his name (screwing his brother) he (at least I, and his brother/wife think) pulled a Columbo episode.

The guy didn't have a pot to piss in, hadn't worked in 10 years(mr. mom with their 2 kids)and ran up his credit cards into 5 figures. He eventually got divorced and had to pay child support for 2 kids(fortunately for him they were both in their late teens).

Even though his mom required 24/7 assistance, he decided to take advantage of his new (pre/post divorce) freedom and would wait till his mom went to bed before he'd head out to bars(nude/other), concerts, roller-skating...all places that had yet to completely shutdown for covid...though covid was rolling by then.

Surprise, surprise...he caught it, gave it to his mom...and that is (literally) all she wrote.

1 year pain...then everything to gain.

Don't know what/how he's doing now...but guaranteed a lot better off than he would have been without getting self-spoiled.

40 posted on 07/01/2024 10:31:23 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Time to throw them out of the Temple...again)
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