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Dirt bike rider shot by officer in North Philadelphia on Saturday afternoon, police say
nbcphiladelphia ^ | 06/15/2024 | Emily Rose Grassi

Posted on 06/17/2024 8:18:37 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: Rummyfan

Need a lot more information than this story is sharing.


41 posted on 06/17/2024 9:53:21 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: thefactor
The author then paints a picture that the cops just started blasting.

As if that has ever happened before. Right factor?

42 posted on 06/17/2024 9:53:58 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Vermont Lt

Wow, those are nice bikes. Mine is a Honda and I think sometimes people think it’s just another “dirt bike”. Heck, it’s got a headlight with hi-beam switch, L/R turn signals at the front and rear, a horn, speedometer, passenger foot pegs, etc.


43 posted on 06/17/2024 10:03:59 AM PDT by equaviator (If 60 is the new 40, then 35 must be the new 15.)
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To: NorthMountain

Lol. Nice to see that you have read a few sentences written by a literal blue-haired liberal reporter (she has pics of herself with blue hair on her twitter page) and already judged this to be a bad shooting. I’m sure the author is glad to have accomplished her goal of getting you to side with the inner-city criminals of Philadelphia.


44 posted on 06/17/2024 10:16:04 AM PDT by thefactor
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To: dragnet2

My point, that you ALWAYS seem to miss, is that absolutely nothing can be said for sure from this very short article. Additionally, this reporter is extremely far left. You can believe her if you so desire. I tend to be the guy who questions these types of reports. You must be the other guy.


45 posted on 06/17/2024 10:20:11 AM PDT by thefactor
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To: thefactor
I didn't even mention this article or refer to this specific story.

I simply commented and asked you a question regarding your comment, which you completely evaded. ☺

The author then paints a picture that the cops just started blasting.

Lets try again.

As if that has ever happened before. Right factor?

Right??

46 posted on 06/17/2024 10:24:45 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: thefactor
I went to the author's twitter page, and it's exactly what you'd expect.

Good to know. The "innocent dirt bike rider in the middle of the city" meme already had me thinking a certain sorta way, but waiting for facts.

47 posted on 06/17/2024 10:32:30 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I'm running that far! )
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To: dragnet2
Ah, so you'd just like to change the topic entirely and no longer talk about the article at hand. Like some sort of child, you just want me to talk about what you want to talk about. Ok, little boy, here you go. Pay attention now because I'll only say this once:

Yes, police officers make mistakes and shoot their weapons when they should not.

Do you feel better, kid? Now run along. Adults are talking about events in the world. We don't have time for your nonsense.

48 posted on 06/17/2024 10:38:24 AM PDT by thefactor
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To: thefactor
Yes, police officers make mistakes and shoot their weapons when they should not.

Bewhahahaha...Whoops....Sorry, didn't mean to shoot ya 10 times...

49 posted on 06/17/2024 10:40:50 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Rummyfan
Seems justified.

Depends.

If he was just informing the officer that he was carrying so he would not get shot then it is not justified.

The police are not allowed to shoot people just because they are carrying.

If he pulled it out and pointed it at the officer, justified.

50 posted on 06/17/2024 10:43:46 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Roses are red, Violets are blue, I love being on the government watch list, along with all of you.)
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To: NorthMountain

We don’t really know that from the article. What commands were given? What commands were complied with. What was the attitude/resistance of the perp?
If you’re told to keep your hands on the wheel/in the air, and you reach to the vicinity of a visible firearm, you’re going to be justifiably shot. No cop should have to wait for the perp to execute him.


51 posted on 06/17/2024 11:51:18 AM PDT by Fireone (Who killed Obama's chef?)
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To: equaviator
You mean dirt bikes that are not street legal?

Yes. Many of them are trikes or quads. No plates. They ride them on onto major roads, off-road them through vacant lots, go tearing through residential areas, sometimes in groups of 20-30 or more. They pay zero attention to traffic laws and are a constant danger to pedestrians and pets.
52 posted on 06/17/2024 12:06:16 PM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

So if you tell an officer you have a gun means an officer can shoot you?


53 posted on 06/17/2024 12:52:24 PM PDT by Racketeer
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To: Fireone

No citizen should be murdered just because a civil servant is easily frightened. “Officer Safety” is not the root password to the Constitution.

Again, We the People are armed. Our servants need to accustom themselves to that fact, and learn to mind their manners.


54 posted on 06/17/2024 1:09:57 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

During this conversation, the dirt bike rider showed that he had a gun.

Last voluntary acts caused when brain in off mode.


55 posted on 06/17/2024 1:17:18 PM PDT by Vaduz
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To: NorthMountain

In the meantime, I have been stopped more than once, complied w/officer’s commands, informed them of my firearm & location, and gone home to dinner that night, without being shot.
Most cops just want to go home to dinner as well.


56 posted on 06/17/2024 1:30:34 PM PDT by Fireone (Who killed Obama's chef?)
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To: Antoninus

Strictly off-road bikes being ridden by urban street gangs...There’s a telephone or light pole out there somewhere with their name on it.


57 posted on 06/17/2024 1:54:35 PM PDT by equaviator (If 60 is the new 40, then 35 must be the new 15.)
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To: TexasGator

Thanks for the additional info.


58 posted on 06/17/2024 3:56:18 PM PDT by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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To: usurper
Not sure, he could have had a CCW and was just letting the officer know he was armed. Since the officer who was talking to him was not the one who used deadly force this could be a very unfortunate situation.

"Unfortunate" one way to describe it. One would hope these fellows with the magical blue suits also had cameras on, so we can find out if their claims match reality.

59 posted on 06/17/2024 5:23:32 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Ah, yes... the South Park “He’s comin’ right for us” excuse.

Yup. The description so far was both lacking in actual details and very strangely worded.

60 posted on 06/17/2024 5:24:59 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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