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There are several issues, the primary being property taxes negate property ownership by basically making you a renter from the government. Property taxes should be a one time assessment at title transfer IMHO.

Another as in this case is you plan for retirement then the government is unrestrained in upping the anti with these tax increases. However, if seniors are exempted from future tax increases they can then vote for tax increases because it doesn't affect them.

Furthermore, if you don't have skin in the game you should have a say which means non property owners should not have a say to increase property taxes.

1 posted on 06/11/2024 6:49:09 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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That's pretty damn steep. But one question that can be asked is what's happened to the actual open market value of his place? If it's skyrocketed in the last few years that could partially explain the rise. Aren't rich Marxists from Kalifornia and Washington moving there by the millions?
2 posted on 06/11/2024 6:52:49 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Never Trust A Man Whose Uncle Was Eaten By Cannibals)
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The gummit wants you out of your home.


3 posted on 06/11/2024 6:53:18 AM PDT by bray (It's not racist to be racist against races you do not like.)
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Property taxes should be capped at 1% increases annually.


5 posted on 06/11/2024 6:55:04 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Property taxes are wealth taxes.

There have been discussions about whether governments are going to impose wealth taxes on us. Everybody who pays property taxes is paying a wealth tax. We already have a type of wealth tax in this country.


6 posted on 06/11/2024 6:56:03 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Real estate taxation is usually local, not state. Is it different in Montana?

nb. Betcha the root cause is rich Californian moving in and wanting all the expensive services and infrastructure that ruined where they came from.


7 posted on 06/11/2024 6:57:04 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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“basically making you a renter from the government”
yep-

I saw the same thing happen.

$50K property, $1,000 yr taxes.

15 years later, ~$400K and $8,000 yr taxes.

CA prop 13 is the way to go.


9 posted on 06/11/2024 6:57:39 AM PDT by Macoozie (Roll MAGA, roll!)
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We rent the property we bought.


10 posted on 06/11/2024 6:58:07 AM PDT by texanyankee
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Owning property is nice if taxes don’t eat it up. In too many instances though taxes will eat up the property ownership value.


11 posted on 06/11/2024 6:58:27 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
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I can see this old geezer maybe confused. Could be this is an escrow account with his lender.

Could be part taxes and part insurance.

Insurance rates are skyrocketing everywhere but it is unlikely that 700% is all taxes.


12 posted on 06/11/2024 6:59:01 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT back in 2006)
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Social Security and retirement account income should be tax exempt income.

Seniors should be exempt from property taxes.


13 posted on 06/11/2024 6:59:34 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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The entire system is no longer working for most people. Many will never afford a home, many can’t afford to keep the ones they have, gong to the grocery store is a brutal economic kick in the balls, our nation has become overrun with third worlders, etc….. we are in the very last days of this system that has long been dependent on confidence in a fake fiat dollar, which is now long gone….what’s next is the question.


14 posted on 06/11/2024 6:59:57 AM PDT by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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The Government owns your home. You rent from the politicians and bureaucrats, to their advantage.


15 posted on 06/11/2024 7:01:19 AM PDT by Savage Beast (If they can do it to him, they can do it to us.)
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Arkansas does not increase property tax when you hit 65, unless you move.


16 posted on 06/11/2024 7:01:30 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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The problem of states jacking up property tax rates and forcing seniors out of their homes has been around a long time. In 1978, California voters approved Proposition 13 which sets your initial property tax at 1% of your purchase price. The tax can go up a maximum of 2% per year thereafter.

I’ve always been surprised that CA Prop 13 did not ignite similar restrictions in many other states.

For a while, the restricted cash flow to county coffers helped control the size of government. But the counties soon discovered they could raise sales taxes from 3% in 1978 to 9%-10% today. At least as a senior you don’t need to buy a lot of taxable stuff so you can control the sales tax you pay.

A 10% sales tax is outrageous.

Big government liberals have been salivating to end Prop 13 since the day it was passed.

In Montana, Kurt will soon be an ex-property owner if he continues his one-man tax rebellion. He needs to get a third or half of the property owners to join him. Tax revolts like that were common in the 1930s.


19 posted on 06/11/2024 7:02:44 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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Property taxes need to be banned. Completely.

They make a mockery of property rights.


20 posted on 06/11/2024 7:03:47 AM PDT by MeganC (❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️)
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The “property tax” is incremental confiscation of your property. Every year, they take a percentage of it. In a few years they’ve taken the entire value of the property.

If the “property tax” is 33 mills, it’s actually 3.3%. If they take that much every year, in 30 years they will have taken the entire value of your property.

You only think you own it. You are giving a piece of it to the government every year.

The ultimate goal of the marxists is to eliminate all private property.


22 posted on 06/11/2024 7:04:54 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Voltaire: To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.)
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Bottom lines is that your property is NEVER actually yours.


25 posted on 06/11/2024 7:06:55 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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You. Don't. Own. Your. Property.

You are a caretaker for the state, nothing more. You pay a 30 year fee for the privilege of being a caretaker for the state. After 30 years, that fee is reduced, but you will continue paying that fee as long as you choose to be a caretaker for the state.

At any point, you can decide not to be a caretaker for the state and sell your caretakership to another person. Hopefully, the fees for caretakership will have risen since you bought in, and you will have the chance to make a little money off of it. Of course, if you do, there will be a penalty due the state for selling off your caretakership at a profit.

You can also choose to pass your caretakership on to family. If they choose to take the offer, they, too will pay extremely high fees to continue your original caretakership. If they choose to pass it on to a 3rd party, they will pay fines and penalties for selling the caretakership off, and the new buyer will also pay heavily.

During the course of your tenure as caretaker for the state, you may complete projects and renovations to increase the value of your caretakership. Of course, these improvements will be at personal expense, and must not be done until the state has approved of your plans via various permits and more caretakership fees. The state reserves the right to stop any and all improvements it deems unnecessary.

The truth is, you already own nothing, and you're happy!

28 posted on 06/11/2024 7:12:05 AM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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So, these property taxes go almost exclusively to "K-12 schools, law enforcement and fire departments". How much of the increase is due to illegal aliens, directly or indirectly?

I do think there is more to his claimed bill. Surprised in reading this, there was no address and lots of confusion if this was solely a tax bill or not. Regardless, retirees should be protected.

How much responsibility does he have for this? Did he vote for the people making tax decisions? Has he spoken up previously?

29 posted on 06/11/2024 7:13:33 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Build the Wall, Deport Them All. No amnesty for anyone.)
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People need to start thinking big about what we need to do in this Great Reform or Fifth Great Awakening or MAGA or whatever.

Property taxes are a backdoor way for local governments to do serious harm to the people. Like all the ruin of public schools, tranny ed, communist indoctrination, drugs sold in schools, crime, and ruin of our younger generations.

It's all funded by property taxes.

WE CAN RESCIND LAWS AND TAXES in our new world.

Heck get rid of federal income taxes too while we are at it.

Just put tariffs on all imported goods.

The Free Traders have been lying to us.

Americans need to WAKE UP in the Fifth Great Awakening.

30 posted on 06/11/2024 7:14:22 AM PDT by caddie
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