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Russia economy on the brink after China snubs gas pipeline deal in major blow for Putin
Express UK ^ | 6/3/2024 | John Varga

Posted on 06/03/2024 1:32:40 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

China delivered a devastating blow to Russia's economic prospects after refusing to commit to a Kremlin deal over future gas exports.

The Kremlin saw its gas revenues severely hit by its decision to invade Ukraine, as European countries started to introduce bans on Russian energy exports in the aftermath of the war.

Gas and oil pipeline flows to Europe have plummeted by more than eighty percent since 2022, with the state energy company Gazprom taking a US$6.9billion (£5.4billion) hit to its finances.

(Excerpt) Read more at express.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 06/03/2024 1:32:40 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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2 posted on 06/03/2024 1:38:42 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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They must think we are stupid.

The US/EU sabotaged the gas pipeline to EU, and the US/EU continues to import russkie gas & oil through middlemen at a higher cost to them.

There’s no shortage of energy customers and a “refusal to commit” is meaningless except that China will lock-out price increases without a contract, which the russkies are quite famous in their fidelity to perform. China has no gas/oil. They have to import.


3 posted on 06/03/2024 1:38:44 PM PDT by TonyinLA (I don't have sufficient information to formulate a reasoned opinion said no lefty ever.)
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To: marcusmaximus

Today’s propaganda from British intelligence.


4 posted on 06/03/2024 1:42:20 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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Here's more from John Varga

Putin humiliated as army sends golf carts and bikes to Ukraine to cover tank losses


5 posted on 06/03/2024 1:45:13 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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Kharkiv in 3 days!


6 posted on 06/03/2024 1:47:44 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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7 posted on 06/03/2024 1:50:24 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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I trust this article less than the validity of the 81 million vites.


8 posted on 06/03/2024 1:59:53 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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If the propaganda is this weak, maybe it means that we’re coming up on the end of this farce,


9 posted on 06/03/2024 2:05:08 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's not "Quiet Quitting" -- it's "Going Galt".)
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Putin really stepped in it this time! The walls are closing in! It’s all for him now. #6382912


10 posted on 06/03/2024 2:13:13 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: TonyinLA

The US is a net exporter of oil and gas.

The EU is not one thing. Much of it (Spain, France, etc) weren’t serviced by Russian gas pipelines. These have all built out LNG facilities. Poland and etc did an alternate thing pre-2022 by helping create the Norwegian gas pipelines.

The problem with Russian natural gas is that the previous iteration requires pipelines, running from the gas fields to the users, and thus necessarily constitute a sole-source monopoly.

Its like being your electric utility, but outside the reach of your legal-political system. You are dependent on your utility, and cant easily switch if that power company decides to send goons to beat up your neighbor.

Europe has effectively switched to the Spanish-French model of LNG, which comes on ships and is therefore, like oil/petroleum, a global commodity. If you have political-blackmail problems with supplier A, there are suppliers B through Z that would be happy to send you their gas.

China is being smart in refusing to commit. China, with respect to Russian gas in its Siberian basin (not the same source as for the Euro pipelines), is a monopsony. It is the sole significant buyer. Dependence on pipeline gas is a potential handcuff to national policy.


11 posted on 06/03/2024 2:17:35 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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“According to BP, China’s domestic production of crude oil was 3.836 million barrels a day in 2019 — not insignificant, but still well behind the U.S.’s 17.045 or Saudi Arabia’s 11.832 — putting China in 7th place worldwide for production.”

Gas must be either chilled into a liquid or piped. The Russian/Chinese pipeline deal was to ship gas (as in gaseous form) via a pipeline that isn’t finished. The problem was one of finance. The Russians wanted the Chinese to pay for the pipeline as well as the gas it contained. The recent trip by Putin to China was an attempt to secure the deal. He failed. China is hard up for the cash and probably wanted to pay in Yuan and the Russians probably wanted it in Rubles.

As for the sabotage of the Russian/European pipeline, does it make sense for the US or the Germans to sabotage it as it was the Russians who turned it off? Gazprom was under contract to supply the gas or to pay for an alternative supply if, for some reason they could not supply the gas. The most likely culprit was Gazprom as they were on the hook for millions of Euros because they were not able to supply the gas. Therefore, they claimed force majeure.* So you have to ask, who actually benefited from the sabotage? Gazprom was trying to protect the assets they had in Germany from seizure for failure to pay the penalty clauses in their contract. (The German government nationalized their assets anyway.)

*A force majeure clause is a provision in a contract that allows both parties to be released from their obligations in case of unforeseeable and unavoidable catastrophes. These catastrophes can be natural disasters or human-made events that cause severe disruption to the expected course of events. A force majeure clause can provide protection from penalties, fees, or liabilities arising from non-performance of the contract


12 posted on 06/03/2024 2:18:32 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: marcusmaximus

I could tell it was a British tabloid story and the poster just be looking at the title.


13 posted on 06/03/2024 2:20:10 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: ClearCase_guy

There is spin is in this article, but the facts are facts, which you could easily check from other sources,

From a trade journal -
https://www.offshore-technology.com/news/russia-china-gas-pipeline-talks/

It is useful (necessary, if you have a real interest in this stuff) to know where the commodities and money are moving.


14 posted on 06/03/2024 2:24:02 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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More propaganda from the same author,below. The USA has admitted in senate hearings to the labs’ existence and the fear they have of the deadly pathogens leaking:

Putin accuses US of attempting to wipe Russians off face of planet with new ‘sex bomb’
RUSSIA has accused the United States and Ukraine of developing a “sex bomb” targeting Russian women and their ability to reproduce.
By JOHN VARGA
16:53, Mon, Mar 21, 2022 | UPDATED: 16:53, Mon, Mar 21, 2022
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1584059/russia-news-ukraine-war-us-bioweapons-targeting-reproduction-rogozin-vladimir-putin


15 posted on 06/03/2024 2:24:16 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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China is also on the brink


16 posted on 06/03/2024 2:26:37 PM PDT by butlerweave
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17 posted on 06/03/2024 2:29:40 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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18 posted on 06/03/2024 2:32:42 PM PDT by Jane Long (The role of the GOP: to write sharply-worded letters as America becomes a communist hell-hole.)
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Commenting to MarcyMaxipad is like talking to a wall, a very stupid, stupid wall.


19 posted on 06/03/2024 2:34:09 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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Sgt. Slava’s on the job!


20 posted on 06/03/2024 2:38:56 PM PDT by Allegra (Toss a zeeper in the Dnieper)
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