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Can President Biden pardon Hunter if he is convicted of the IRS and Gun charges?
5/24/2024 | TheOldSchool

Posted on 05/24/2024 7:18:42 AM PDT by TheOldSchool

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To: Robert DeLong

Baring death or illness he won’t drop out


61 posted on 05/24/2024 10:04:18 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Robert DeLong

Otherwise, I need to you to lay out those consequences you see, that I don’t see.


It is what we the people do or do not regarding a pardon that goes too far.

In a good republic, that power base would be out of power for that single act. History shows us this.

The question is do we have enough of a good republic left. We don’t know yet. Place your bet.


62 posted on 05/24/2024 10:07:22 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: nikos1121

We shall see, but if it takes that, the DNC has no problem making that happen, In fact, it would only bolster their chances by blaming his assassination on the Republicans. I say this because they cannot allow Trump to become president again. My biggest fear is that they will assassinate Trump instead. If they fail though, they have assured Trump being elected.


63 posted on 05/24/2024 10:12:01 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Reily

I think Presidents can pardon federal offences but not state.


64 posted on 05/24/2024 10:29:04 AM PDT by Engedi
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To: Reily

I think Presidents can pardon federal offences but not state.


65 posted on 05/24/2024 10:29:05 AM PDT by Engedi
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To: Reily

I think Presidents can pardon federal offences but not state.


66 posted on 05/24/2024 10:29:05 AM PDT by Engedi
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To: PeterPrinciple
You just said the same thing over. Explain where & how the consequences come into play. There is no law that I know of that restricts a president from pardoning a family member.

We see on a daily basis how the Rule-of-Law has been turned on its head. we have seen clear evidence that all politicians no longer are concerned about the people, because it's the donor class that keep returning them to their political positions. That means our voting in just a ruse to give the appearance that we still play a role in electing those we want.

So, that is why I insist that you lay out what you are referring to. If not, that is fine too, but it shows that you really have nothing in mind.

67 posted on 05/24/2024 10:30:53 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: TheOldSchool

While I know this is not the current state of affairs, I have long held that pardons should be limited to convictions.


68 posted on 05/24/2024 10:33:35 AM PDT by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: Engedi

true!
Are their state charges against Hunter? The only thing that seems to make the news is federal charges. If the crime occurred in California or any Rat run deep blue state, I doubt if the charges would be allowed to stand.


69 posted on 05/24/2024 10:36:05 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Robert DeLong

So, that is why I insist that you lay out what you are referring to. If not, that is fine too, but it shows that you really have nothing in mind.


The market place speaks and WE FIND OUT. Look to history for guidance.

I said, in a rational society, a bad pardon, should remove bad leadership. That is why the founding Fathers gave few guidelines for pardons. I can’t be any clearer.

Whether it will if joe does this will reveal a lot...............about us.


70 posted on 05/24/2024 10:36:12 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: TheOldSchool

Yes. And all the RATs would still vote for him.


71 posted on 05/24/2024 10:38:02 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: TheOldSchool

That’s how they will get Traitor Joe to step aside and not seek re-election.
Step down after Pardoning Hunter and democrats will support the decision


72 posted on 05/24/2024 10:39:00 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Robert DeLong

https://nypost.com/article/most-controversial-presidential-pardons-us-history/


here is your history lesson


73 posted on 05/24/2024 10:39:40 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Robert DeLong

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_prerogative_of_mercy

here is some history on pardons.

One of most controversial was Pilates pardon of Barabbas. It had some interesting effects.


74 posted on 05/24/2024 10:42:58 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
I know most of that, but I also note that in reviewing the history that none of those pardoned had their pardons revoked, nor was the president subjected to any form of consequence.

Clinton even pardoned his half-brother Roger for cocaine trafficking, who later was arrested twice on drunk driving charges. He even pardoned FALN, that even Hillary objected to. The Senate voted 95-2 to oppose the clemency and the House voted 311-41. But because the presidential pardon power is absolute, the votes could not reverse the action.

So, now explain why that article bolster's your case, because I see it bolstering my case to be honest.

I'm not trying to be a smart-@ss. I'm trying to understand what consequences Biden faces when he pardons his son Hunter after the election has been decided, or if he decides to drop-out/is pushed-out before the election is completed.

I may be missing something, which is why I ask. I have made mistakes before and have made statements that needed further explanation as to why I made the statement I had made while ignoring previous history that I had omitted. It's called a learning process, and I try to continue to learn even at my older age.

75 posted on 05/24/2024 11:06:45 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

I’m trying to understand what consequences Biden faces when he pardons his son Hunter after the election has been decided, or if he decides to drop-out/is pushed-out before the election is completed.


and I am telling you repeatedly, we don’t know. There could be a big backlash against the RaTS, OR NOT. The rats will place their bet on there not being a backlash. We can influence unintended consequences.

But I don’t think Trump will let it go if he wins or loses. The question is will we keep in the fore front of our discussion or let it slide.


76 posted on 05/24/2024 11:14:23 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
Totally irrelevant, as that doesn't even pertain to this nation at all.

You are really reaching here, unless you are saying that the people will break the law because Biden pardoned his son.

I do not see that happening. At best is to bring charges against Hunter, if we can get Trump elected, in Trump's triumphant return. I won't state how that might be accomplished right now. Because sometimes it is not wise to talk about certain things until the time is right to do so.

77 posted on 05/24/2024 11:16:05 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: PeterPrinciple
and I am telling you repeatedly, we don’t know.

Okay. 🙂👍

78 posted on 05/24/2024 11:17:23 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: MCSETots

I’d bet it’ll happen over the Christmas holidays, while Congress is in recess. If Biden has lost the election, he’ll also give Hunter a Presidential Medal of Freedom.


79 posted on 05/24/2024 12:55:07 PM PDT by Bob Wills is still the king (Just a Texas Playboy at heart)
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To: Bob Wills is still the king

Nada. It would be an “in your face” pardon.

All we’ll hear from the MSM is “well, President Ford pardoned President Nixon.” Of course they’ll conveniently omit the people that Clinton and the Bamster pardoned . . .


80 posted on 05/25/2024 8:28:27 AM PDT by MCSETots
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