Ohio

Let me know how the concert went.

NY had a stopover in Austin on May 1st. I passed. I can’t stand his new stuff and his attitude since he divorced Pegi sucks.

I might be old but he certainly has gone off the deep end.
Been a fan since 1972. I cant count the number of his concerts I attended. Sometimes I would drive from Corpus all the way to DFW. I got to shake his hand & have a brief conversation with him in SA when he did his solo tour back in 1999.

Now I’m content to play the countless number of CDs of his pre-2002 releases whenever I’m in the mood.

The question unanswered is who shot first.

Not to the media, academia, politicians and most historians -- it's almost universally accepted that trigger-happy NG soldiers shot first.

But I don't think it's true. I read a very convincing article on the investigation once -- I wish I could provide a link -- that says the first shot was fired by a journalist who felt threatened, perhaps as a warning shot, and then all hell broke loose as the NG soldiers thought they had been fired upon.

Here is a link to a NY Times article that, in a random act of journalism from 1973, backs the claim that a freelance photographer fired the first shot, and subsequently panicked young NG troops into firing back at the crowd.

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...There is no question, Mr. Davies says, that ["freelance photographer"] Norman was at the scene, that he was carrying a gun and that he drew it either right before or right after the shooting. Some witnesses say he fired his gun immediately before the Guardsmen wheeled around and began shooting....The photographer may have been a fulltime undercover agent for the University, which is known to have employed them, and the F.B.I. has recently admitted paying him $125 a few weeks before the shootings for information about a right‐wing political group.

https://www.nytimes.com/1973/09/02/archives/the-truth-about-kent-state-a-challenge-to-the-american-conscience.html

Four dead in Ohio (why?)

You will not like the answer you dope smoking pervert.

Because the little commies who were destroying property and terrorizing the campus charged the National Guard who was there to try to PREVENT said commies from destroying property and hurting people.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

Oh and please understand that eventually people get to the point when they have had enough of your ignorant temper tantrum and you are going to get hurt.

And normal people will not give a hoot.

Not sure the students at Kent were privileged kids. I was at Ball State in Muncie, IN that day, a very similar school. Most of the students at both schools were the kids of just regular folk. My soon to be wife’s dad was a union factory worker and my dad worked for Cummin’s Engine Co. Not exactly privileged.

The agitators had been at BSU a few days earlier trying to stir up something. They failed miserably so they moved further east with more success. Guessing the fact, they got there on a weekend helped their cause. The riots in downtown Kent started out as drunken Saturday night partying that got way out of hand. The agitators took advantage of what they had to work with and made the most if it. By the 4th the campus and the town were both primed for something bad to happen and it did.

I don’t blame the NG. They were there on the orders of the governor and were outnumbered. They were kids. They were my age. I was 18.

I’m not sure even today if anyone knows what happened. There has always been talk that someone shot at them first and they reacted. Not sure that’s ever been proven. What is fact is that the deaths did not have the desired effect. The agitators thought the deaths would cause an explosion of rioting and destruction across the country. In fact, it did just the opposite. With a few exceptions, the rioting and protests stopped. Being involved in protests was fun when no one got hurt. When it became real kids took a different view. Also, the general attitude amongst older people was not to turn enraged against the government, but to instead take the attitude of, ‘If they kids had been in class like they should have been, rather than rioting none of this would have happened.” Heard that from both my parents and my future in-laws.

The Left overplayed their cards that day and lost their growing influence over college kids. They thought they could come to a quiet, working class, mid-western college town, stir up trouble and rip the country apart. They learned a lesson. We hadn’t been indoctrinated enough. We weren’t ready to give our lives for their stupid revolution. We still saw our country as a pretty good place. Did it have its flaws yes, but they were fixable without destroying the good. We still had basic American values even as college students. They went to work after that to undermine those values starting in pre-school so next time they’d get a different result. I think we are seeing the fruits of their labors this last week across the country.

The guardsmen had just finished a couple days duty stopping overpass shootings of trucks by wildcat striking Teamsters when rioters burned down the Kent State University ROTC building. They get sent to the campus without a break (or any training in riot control) with gas masks and loaded Garands. Most were college age themselves. The girl killed across campus probably died because a guardsman thought sending a round over the heads of the rioters coming at them was a good idea. Overall, as consistent a cluster**** as one can imagine with plenty of blame on both sides.

I was a teen during that time, but not of driving age. I remember my Democrat voting parents and other adults of the time, talking about how they should have mowed down the protesters, from the first day they blocked roads, turned over cars and disrupted society.

FF to today, govt should have open fired many times since then on “protesters”. Every time they block a road, when antifa and BLM ran rampant. In LA during Rodney King, or when St Floyd riots went down.

There simply has to be a high price to be paid for destruction of civilization.

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