“ ‘So I published a firm rebuttal to that study finding not only that did SOCE not increase suicidal behavior, it decreased it,’ he says.”
In other words, repentance works.
It is well known queers have a higher suicide rate than normal people. It is obvious to me that if you do a study of Queers who want to quit you are going to get higher suicide rate than normal . The real question is did the therapy lower that background rate?
Forcing someone to go through conversion therapy would probably be counterproductive, unless he or she wants to try it. Government has no business preventing someone who wants to do so.
Okay, let me get this straight. They can cajole, influence, groom and teach kids all about their sick lifestyles, but if our side tries to tell these confused kids the truth and save them from a lifetime pain that is illegal. Again, you’re typical ratchet effect. The Left can do whatever they want, i.e., push the ratchet to their side, but the rachet is never allowed to be reversed. In geopolitics it was called the Brezhnev Doctrine. Once you went communist you could never go back. Kind of the same thing with Islam. Once you convert your only way out is death.
This is not a surprise. Unfortunately, “science” has largely been weaponized by the political forces that endorse the rainbow people because they don’t procreate.
to screen about 3,000 who identified as LGB and then collected 1,500 interviews on the issue,
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Did he visit the cemetery?
I love my friend. My friend is a girl. I am a girl. I must be a lesbian.
I am artistic. I am a boy. All artists are gay. I must be a homosexual.
When you throw in abuse, sexual or otherwise, things can get really confusing for a kid.
Mostly they need someone to talk to who will help them see that what they are is, 99% of the time, normal.
This is not helped by the tendency we have currently to define sex as "love". That is really messing kids up.
People do change. I’m not sure that they can make themselves change. It might help some people who aren’t sure about what they really are. And then there’s the senator’s son who wasn’t converted but found that it helped him lose some irritating mannerisms.
The main thing is that as long as any conversion theraby process is entered into by choice, and not by force, that should be legal. Legally denying that choice is what is a denial of individual rights.
How did we get here? We got here through the false ideology that nothing about being “gay” is from choices and everything is predetermined in DNA somehow, together with the corellary false ideology that no one can chose to change their sexual orientation away from being “gay”.
Thus, with our God given free will, we each get to choose what we think and believe and our inner and outer realities will be determined accordingly..
We are created to physically be a certain way, but our wants and our desires can overrule and deviate away from what is to what our wants and desire want instead. What we choose to believe, we then try to be, reality and cognitive dissonance be damned.
But that only gets us into trouble, because we can’t change the definitions, rules, laws and principles that govern us and our world … and … determine consequences.
The best we created beings, we humans, can do is accept our place in this unchangeable world and choose to align and harmonize with these unchangeable definitions, rules, laws and principles as written by our Creator as best as we can.
If so, we will enjoy much better consequences in all areas of our lives than by going our own way and attempting to re-write the world in our own image, as we’re seeing all around us now in ever greater ways.
The late Adrian Rogers spoke about the consequences of going our own way in his The Lost World sermon as being the three steps to human destruction, detailed in Romans 1:18-31. They are:
1) Willful Self-determinationI do not believe there is a ‘gay gene’, but rather that we are mindful and decide. For most, this is an obvious choice and, there but for the Grace of God, I am happily grateful this is not one of the struggles that I have.
2) Wicked Self-deception
3) Woeful Self-destruction
But, I definitely do pray for those who do have this inner battle and I do hope and pray that they all will avoid that woeful third step.
We have free will and we are self-determined. We can choose to accept what is and live by that standard from the start and enjoy that reality or not.
But, even if we choose poorly and no matter how far off of the beaten path we might find ourselves, we can always turn back and get back to where we always belonged once again.
Here in this reality my mom called Schoolhouse earth, we can learn from others and from experience and so, our minds can be changed, even about our sexuality, and with new beliefs soon comes a new reality, good or bad.
Just choose and keep choosing wisely and make your reality a good one … before it’s too late.
It should not be terribly difficult to compare the suicide rate of queers with the suicide rate of queers who have been cured.