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What if Men Could Produce Their Own Eggs?
Reason ^ | FEBRUARY 2024 | Ronald Bailey

Posted on 01/30/2024 12:29:21 PM PST by nickcarraway

In vitro gametogenesi could allow same-sex couples, post-menopausal women, and couples experiencing infertility to have children.

Japanese researchers announced last year that healthy fertile mice had been born using eggs created from male mice's tail-tip cells. The male-derived eggs were fertilized with regular sperm, thus producing pups with two fathers. Reproductive biologist Katsuhiko Hayashi, who led the work at Kyushu University, thinks that it will be technically possible to create a viable human egg from a male skin cell within a decade, according to The Guardian.

This achievement builds on earlier work in which another team of Japanese researchers created mouse eggs from tail-tip cells that resulted in the birth of healthy offspring in 2017. Another Japanese research group in 2021 using mouse stem cells created sperm that produced healthy fertile offspring.

Now researchers at private biotech companies like Conception Bio and Gameto are racing to see if they can develop this in vitro gametogenesis (IVG) technology as a way to safely enable post-menopausal women, couples experiencing infertility, and same-sex couples to bear biologically related children. Perhaps even solo reproduction in which single men could produce both sperm and eggs that combined would result in them having biological children in the future.

Bear in mind that only seven healthy mouse pups emerged from the 630 two-dad embryos transferred by the Japanese researchers. So significant technical hurdles must be addressed before IVG can be safely used to give birth to human babies. But some folks object to pursuing human procreation using IVG even after it becomes as safe as conventional and in vitro fertilization (IVF) births.

IVG is "a perversion of the sanctity of procreation as a fundamental aspect of human life," said Ben Hurlbut, a bioethicist at Arizona State University, in USA Today. He added, "It makes it into an industrial project that responds to and also inspires and cultivates the desires of their future customers." Marcy Darnovsky, head of the left-wing Center for Genetics and Society, warned on NPRthat IVG "could take us into a kind of Gattaca world." (She was referencing the 1997 sci-fi movie in which a eugenicist state is ruled by people born with genetically enhanced abilities.) Over at the conservative Federalist, Jordan Boyd asserts that by developing IVG, "the global fertility industry seeks to erase women from procreation one manufactured egg at a time."

The National Academy of Sciences addresses many of these ethical concerns in its In Vitro-Derived Human Gametes conference proceedings report released in October 2023. That report is summarizing the results of a conference on the topic convened by the NAS in April 2023.

Far from "erasing women," IVG will instead enable otherwise infertile women to produce as many eggs as they desire without having to endure treatments like ovarian stimulation in the hope of yielding sufficient eggs to succeed at conventional IVF.

Hurlbut is right that many people regard procreation as a "fundamental aspect of human life." This would be especially true for the 9 percent of men and 11 percent of women of reproductive age in the United States who have experienced fertility problems. Then there are people past conventional reproductive age and same-sex couples who would like to have biologically related children. Far from being an "industrial project," the rollout of safe IVG would fulfill the desires of these future customers to build their families.

What about Gattaca fears? The report does acknowledge that "combining IVG with polygenic risk screening could revolutionize the ability to select embryos." Polygenic risk screening (PRS) totes up the genetic variants that increase each embryo's chances of developing a particular disease or trait. This is similar to the already widely accepted practice of pre-implantation genetic diagnosis during IVF, in which parents test and select embryos in order to avoid deleterious heritable conditions. PRS would increase would-be parents' ability to select a preferred combination of traits from among many more embryos.

Rather than limit the use of PRS, Stanford University bioethicist Hank Greely suggested that, "in general, it is better to rely on parental choices to make decisions about how people wish to create families." This follows from the reasonable presumption that parents generally seek to provide the best lives for their potential progeny. The sorry history of eugenics laws in the U.S., where tens of thousands were forcibly sterilized during the 20th century, should make anyone cautious about government meddling in people's reproductive choices, including the use of safe IVG. As University of California, Irvine, law professor Michele Goodwin correctly noted, "Where law has intervened over time in matters of reproduction, it has served to undermine civil liberties and civil rights."


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To: nickcarraway
If men could produce our own eggs it'd bring whole new meaning to the word MENopause.

Wife: Why are you crying?
Husband: I don't know.

21 posted on 01/30/2024 1:00:00 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: nickcarraway

Even if a man could produce an egg and self-fertilize, where’s it going to go? You need a uterus and another body to provide oxygen and nutrients for the baby to develop and grow.


22 posted on 01/30/2024 1:09:08 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: nickcarraway

Why would give a cluck when God filled women with eggs and milk.

Seems like more work and we’re pretty layZ....


23 posted on 01/30/2024 1:15:35 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: nickcarraway

Indeed with so much cross breeding not sure not that many are any good.

Note all the crazy people on the streets fail ensued.


24 posted on 01/30/2024 1:17:34 PM PST by Vaduz
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To: nickcarraway

The ovum contains mitochondrial DNA, sperm does not.


25 posted on 01/30/2024 1:30:29 PM PST by yelostar (Spook codes 33 and 13. See them often in headlines and news stories. )
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To: nickcarraway

What a retarded question. How about next write one asking,”What if men could sh1t out an Iowa class battleship?”


26 posted on 01/30/2024 1:35:07 PM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: nickcarraway

I smell a rat...


27 posted on 01/30/2024 1:37:14 PM PST by dblshot
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To: nickcarraway

The pagan, developed world is currently undergoing a slow-motion self-extermination of cultural and civilizational suicide. Enabling two men to have a child won’t change that, because very very few such men, brainwashed into a worldview of self-indulgence, will want the work and responsibility that goes with it.


28 posted on 01/30/2024 2:01:20 PM PST by EnderWiggin1970
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To: nickcarraway

What gender is a YY?


29 posted on 01/30/2024 2:09:57 PM PST by MortMan (Corduroy pillows are making headlines.)
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To: nickcarraway

Come quickly LORD!!


30 posted on 01/30/2024 2:28:49 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND LEFTISM! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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To: Navy Patriot

The LORD is more patient than us.( Thankfully)


31 posted on 01/30/2024 2:30:52 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND LEFTISM! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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To: nickcarraway

I have a friend who has property up on the ridge above me. I get at least a dozen eggs a week from him. Never questioned him as to where they came from.


32 posted on 01/30/2024 3:16:34 PM PST by scottiemom (As a former Texas public school teacher, )
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To: nickcarraway
" What if Men Could Produce Their Own Eggs?"

By definition, they would no longer be men.

33 posted on 01/30/2024 3:45:37 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: Paal Gulli

They would be seahorses.


34 posted on 01/30/2024 6:06:25 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Even seahorses do not lay their own eggs.

Create a law, defy reality, the inmates running the nation.


35 posted on 01/30/2024 6:58:18 PM PST by Jumper
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To: nickcarraway

What kind of genetic defects could we expect from the same parent donating egg and sperm? Isn’t that slightly worse than incest by literally destroying genetic diversity?


36 posted on 01/30/2024 8:36:24 PM PST by Tacrolimus1mg (Do no harm, but take no sh!t.)
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To: Jumper

I thought male seahorses gave birth?


37 posted on 01/30/2024 11:03:01 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Jumper

What about Sea Monkeys?


38 posted on 01/30/2024 11:03:32 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Do we really need to go there?

That is another avenue the liberal brain-trust are going down. In time, humans could be built according to specs using a compatibility algorithm like as https://pcpartpicker.com/ can do for building PCs. If they can find some way to produce more liberals and dependents then such could be added to such lists as:


39 posted on 01/31/2024 9:55:54 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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40 posted on 01/31/2024 10:56:55 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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