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1 posted on 01/11/2024 10:52:20 PM PST by Red Badger
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Aviation Ping!.......................


2 posted on 01/11/2024 10:52:56 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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Yes but can they keep the doors on it?


4 posted on 01/12/2024 12:42:06 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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This is really interesting actually. They’re using technology to replicate the way a bird soars. If you watch it birds exercise the ultimate variable control surface adjusting their wing tips and twisting the leading edge to compensate for updrafts, wind shifts and turbulence. I had always wondered when the engineers would finally come to try and replicate that technologically.


7 posted on 01/12/2024 1:44:17 AM PST by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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And what is the “Skunk Works” up to these days?


9 posted on 01/12/2024 2:51:17 AM PST by Bookshelf
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Hope Boeing can figure out how to keep the body panels on. Good thing they didn’t have DEI during WW 2/B-17 days. If it’s Boeing, I’m not going


13 posted on 01/12/2024 4:46:03 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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We live in an age of wonders! Will be these aircraft be powered by batteries or by the new jet fuel derived from manure.


20 posted on 01/12/2024 6:16:40 AM PST by I-ambush (From the brightest star comes the blackest hole. You had so much to offer, why didya offer your sou?)
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If I remember correctly in the late 60s ‘North Cape’ by Joe Poyer had a spy plane that had many futuristic features (including an ejection pod like the F-111 ended up with) and flight surfaces that conformed as needed in flight. It was also controlled by thought (think Firefox movie) and the pilot was jacked up on amphetamines when needed and brought down to normal or put to sleep by barbiturates as the computer deemed necessary per the flight profile.


23 posted on 01/12/2024 6:42:00 AM PST by Semper Vigilantis ('Legal' and 'Right' are not synonyms)
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Aviation has been using engine exhaust released across a wing to increase the energy in the airflow for more than half a century. The "blown flaps" concept goes back to the F-104 Starfighter and F-4 Phantom II.

I don't recall having seen DARPA involved in anything like this since the Sikorsky S-72 "X-Wing" project, which was an experiment to see if they could make rotor blades on a (hybrid) helicopter with no moving control surfaces, then vary the lift produced by the rotors by selectively and cyclically injecting compressed air into the airflow around the rotors.

The thing about the X-Wing's rotor is that once they were in high-speed forward flight, they were to be 'locked' in a cruciate "X-shape" and function like a conventional wing. so it potentially could have been much faster than any helicopter.

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The narrator in this video talks way too fast (and indistinctly) and is an aviation idiot but the images in the video are priceless:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IDu97ij3mo

It had stub wings for extra lift, and it did demonstrate the ability to fly with nothing but the sub wings. And the rotor head was always intended to include explosive bolts so if things went pear-shaped they always could jettison the rotor head and fly like an airplane to look for a runway.

This is a cross-section of one of the rotors, showing how they proposed to duct high-pressure air out of the leading edges of the rotors to change their lift characteristics, exactly the same as what this new project is proposing:

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The hot air was to be delivered through a series of channels in the rotor mast with delivery to the individual rotor blades controlled by computers. In the short time they were working on it, they couldn't get the system to make a pronounced-enough difference in the amount of lift generated. Critically, they could never get it to create enough lift to make hovering possible, which is kinda sorta a deal-breaker in a helicopter.

So this is really a new application of a very old technology. I'd heard at one time "they" were experimenting with "wing-warping" for stealth a/c, a throwback to the method used by the Wright brothers before the advent of ailerons, because wing-warping could eliminate a seam in the skin of the plane. Ducted jets might not have seams but it seems to me (no pun intended) you've still got to have flaws in the skin for the ducted air to emerge from. But, hey, them DARPA dudes is smarter than I could ever hope to be.

24 posted on 01/12/2024 7:17:42 AM PST by Paal Gulli
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Boeing stock went On Sale this week


25 posted on 01/12/2024 7:18:51 AM PST by 38special (I should've said something earlier)
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Boeing and DARPA working on a plane together. What could go wrong?


28 posted on 01/12/2024 1:13:12 PM PST by Delta 21 (If anyone is treasonous, it is those who call me such.)
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