Posted on 12/18/2023 2:21:25 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
Update from Ukraine | Ukraine targeted the Ruzzian Military Airfield | Bombers are damaged
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22PqQ3Ao3Fs
Militaryland news: Invasion Day 661 – Summary. The summary of the situation of Russian re-invasion to Ukraine covering the recent developments on the battlefield, as of 16th December 2023 – 22:00 (Kyiv time). https://militaryland.net/news/invasion-day-661-summary/
[NOTE: two summaries per week, released on Wednesday and Sunday]
*** Great interactive maps with viewer controlled Map magnification tool to use for each Front!
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Well said.
Bravo!
Just did a quick count, of the 121 so far around 71 are from the likes of world and bimbo…, yet they claim one daily thread is trying to control FR, that mom runs to the mods, 71
In none of these do they attempt to refute any information posted, but go straight to propaganda, lier, slander.
The amount of time an energy they spend here is curious
Both protagonists in this war abuse and violate each other in the most sickening of ways. That's what happens in war, so any "RuZZiiiiaaaa Baaad!!"-Youcrayne Goooood!!" proselytizing is utter, disingenous crap, illustrating how very little you actually know about the nature of war.
You may, of course, respond to any comment I post. But do not ping me. Ever. It's a drag going to my pingbox and having to see your boring, hysterical, pro-Youke bullshit. Ugh. Thanks!
There is no place for that crap in America. So, when you leave your Eastern European shitholes behind in search of a better life in America, leave your damn tribal hatreds, longing for vengeance for past wrongs, and vicious, sadistic, bloodlusting ways behind in the Old County. There is no place for them in the USA. No place at all.
Possibly, perhaps in certain foreign academic contexts the word "propaganda" can mean something other than lies & distortions for political purposes.
But not in normal American political contexts.
If we mean something honest, even if it's advocacy, then we'll use a different term from "propaganda".
We'll call it "promotion" or "advertising" or just "messaging".
But when we shift to the word "propaganda", we intend to imply misleading or distorted, if not outright lies & deceptions.
So there is simply no point in trying to claim some propaganda can be just honest & informative "messaging".
For our purposes, it never is.
But what, exactly, is or is not dishonest "propaganda" can seem very much in the eyes of the beholder.
For example, I've almost never seen anything obviously pro-Russian that I did **NOT** consider propaganda.
By contrast, pretty much anything pro-Ukraine seems fine to me.
Obviously, for many here it's the reverse.
Consider an example -- how many serious Russian casualties have there been in Ukraine?
Russians themselves have not put out recent numbers, but such Russian source numbers as we saw were minimal.
All non-Russian sources put Russian casualty totals at over 300,000 with US intelligence estimating 315,000 while British intelligence and the Ukrainian government put it at circa 350,000
Are all of those estimates just propaganda, or do they represent honest efforts to arrive at the real numbers?
And if we consider them mere propaganda, then what are the real numbers, and where did they come from?
So, very recently, Vlad Putin himself estimated the number of Russian troops in the Ukraine SMO as 600,000 which prompted wags to respond: that number can only right if Vlad adds to the actual number those that were killed and buried in Ukraine.
Propaganda?
“You vicious, sadistic Slavs”
Didn’t he just say his relatives were from Berlin, before the Russians occupied it?
——What about the Russian Propaganda threads?-—
More importantly, what about the war criminal advocates that post them.
Should Free Republic be supporting war criminals?
Drop and give us 500 words!!
🇺🇸🇷🇺🇺🇦‼️🚨 “Ukraine is functionally destroyed as a country… It’s just a tragedy.”
— Republican Senator James Vance on Ukraine pic.twitter.com/9jgVI4Qkti— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) December 19, 2023
These folks are becoming unhinged now. Given the incredible depth of emotional investment most of them have made in a Glorious Youcrayne Victory!!! I think there's a good chance some of them are going to end up "on the couch" when all's said and done. Others will be smashing the box wine and pills for dear life.
I will laugh at them. But I will cry at all the real death and destruction that occurred in the actual war.
Let’s see...
You chose the name “Red Freedom” which can be a double entendre for red states or for the Soviet Union.
You object to KGB propaganda but your tagline cites Josef Stalin.
You want to silence and censor a view that is critical of Russia.
And you state your desire that Russia would not just end the war and go home but that they would win.
All while trying to pass yourself off as a neutral observer who is weary of reading news about Russia’s war of imperial conquest.
You sir, are hitting all the marks as a “concern troll”.
“But what, exactly, is or is not dishonest “propaganda” can seem very much in the eyes of the beholder.”
Yep!
From what I have seen of your comments and complaints, you did not leave “that crap” behind when you came to America, provided you even did ever come to America. You might be a happier person if you followed your own advice.
“virtually every single Ukrainian family I have spoken to about the war and it’s antecedents has horror stories to tell about the depredations and crimes that they have suffered under the russian occupation of their lands.”
Anecdotally, it has been the same with my small sample, but it takes some prompting or probing to find out. I have had an earful from some Georgians as well.
I don't believe anything you or any other Youke propagandist has to say. I especially don't care to hear from an "America Last" fantasist and grifter living in Youcrayne who posts ridiculous nonsense that flies in the face of the actual "big picture," which is that Youcrayne's getting thrashed - on all fronts.
I'm also tired of you cheerleaders celebrating the deaths of young men who've been thrown into this evil conflict and I am tired of warmongers like you profiting from that death and destruction. Buzz off now, ghoul.
Stop pinging me. I’ve asked you numerous times now.
Disregard my last request regarding gleeaikin. She was rersponding to a comment I’d posted, not pinging me unsolicited. Thanks.
Remember, unlike you, I don't throw shots while hiding behind an alias. Understand what I'm saying? Good.
By any objective measure, Youcrayne is being dismantled. Fully 25% of its population has fled and, if history's a guide, the vast majority of them won't be returning. That is an unmitigated disaster.
Towns and villages there are being bombed into piles of rubble. That is a fact and that is disastrous.
Hundreds of thousands of young, Youcraynian men have been maimed and killed. That is a disaster.
You can parse words all you want but all of those facts lead any rational person to the conclusion that Youcrayne is getting thrashed.
What is "PWI?"
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