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‘No no no. Avoid them all’: anti-vaccine conspiracies spread as UK cases of measles increase
The Guardian ^ | Shanti Das

Posted on 12/07/2023 12:22:05 PM PST by nickcarraway

Online anti-vaxxers, conflating Covid and MMR theories, are convincing parents against immunising their children

‘No no no. Avoid them all’: anti-vaccine conspiracies spread as UK cases of measles increase Online anti-vaxxers, conflating Covid and MMR theories, are convincing parents against immunising their children

Shanti Das Shanti Das Sat 25 Nov 2023 11.00 EST In a Facebook group for parents, a mother asks for advice following the recent rise in measles cases.

She’s received a letter from the NHS asking her to take her young daughter for the MMR vaccine, which protects against measles, mumps and rubella, as it’s “dangerous not to have it”.

But she doesn’t know who to trust. “I’ve done some research but feel like a lot of the info on the web is pro-vaccine,” she writes.

Another mother is equally unsure. She’s trying to decide whether she should take her eldest for their childhood jabs and wants to work out which ones are “worth the risk”. “Just trying to learn about it all and make the right decisions. Thank you in advance,” she writes.

Within minutes, both posts have been flooded with replies – almost all of which give the same advice.

“No no no. Avoid them all,” one person says. “Once they’re injected into the bloodstream, the metals and toxins have access to the brain and every organ!” she claims falsely. “Arm yourself with information to decline because they will pressure you.”

Others share stories of children they claim have been damaged by the MMR vaccine. Some advise the parents to “just ignore” communications from the NHS. “I keep getting letters for all my kids. It’s scaremongering. I’ve threatened my surgery with harassment if they don’t stop sending me letters,” another person says.

The onslaught of anti-vaccine comments seems to have the desired effect. Both mothers say

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To: bella1
"The movement of mothers not vaccinating their children started way before covid."

True but it is turbo-charged now. And the reason vaccine hesitancy is a news because some of these vaccines are just dangerous, useless crap.

21 posted on 12/07/2023 1:34:20 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: bella1
"Do you remember what happened to boys that got the mumps after going through puberty?"

A guy I was dating in high school back in 1964 contracted chicken pox. I'd already had them as a baby. Got them from my older siblings. I never knew if the pox had affected his health later on, having contracted it so late. He was a senior at the time. I was a junior.

22 posted on 12/07/2023 1:42:01 PM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: nickcarraway

‘Migrants’


23 posted on 12/07/2023 1:45:55 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: bella1
"My 9 year old niece and 13 year old nephew were just exposed to the measles and their mother is frantic..."

If they go to public school, you never know what they will come home with, especially these days. My oldest son brought home head lice, and gave them to his younger brother. He also brought home chicken pox and gave it to his younger brother too, who was about 9 months old at the time.

The fact that so many diseases are coming over the border unchecked is a health crisis. It ticks me off that there is no concern about what these people are bringing across the border, as my father, his two brothers and their parents came here from Holland in 1913 through Ellis Island, and were separated, and quarantined at the Island until they were medically cleared to be released.

24 posted on 12/07/2023 1:53:24 PM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: nickcarraway

This is fully understandable, Everybody LIED thru their Teeth and Millions were incapacitated or killed from the “safe and effective” FAKE vaccine. To Date NONE of them have been held to answer for their Depraved Indifference.

Round up every last government, big pharma, and health official that LIED about the JAB and EXECUTE them all if you want the peoples trust ever again.


25 posted on 12/07/2023 2:09:59 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: nickcarraway

The biggest watch out for is that they are converting all their vaccines over to mRNA type gene therapy shots.


26 posted on 12/07/2023 2:14:32 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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To: nickcarraway

Not Measles, please not measles. When they ripped through the 2bnuts family in the 60’, kids were sick in every bed. Mom was tired, taking temps and doling out aspirin. We barely survived....lol Now German measles, them are bad mofo’s. Especially for pregnant women. Again, mumps... read the above. Now if Rubella is german measles, give out a shot for the one.


27 posted on 12/07/2023 2:18:21 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: nickcarraway

This is what happens when Scientists dont tell the truth, and go unpunished. No reasonable person will believe what they say.

For that reason, when a scientist misleads, even in a good casue or due to an innocent error, the his peers, the top gurus, the great institutions must ruthlessly condemn him. If the dont, any resonable person will cease to believe any of them.

The reason is that the average Joe, he has neither the time, the equiment, the education nor the resources to check the data, the analysis or the conclusions. The only reason for accepting the word of Scientists is trust. Which is hard to earn, and destoyed very quickly.

Take Dr Fauci.
In mid March of 2020, his NIH and CDC stated that face masks
“did more harm than good”. This was a lie.

The purpose of the lie was, he thought, noble. It was to prevent hoarding of face masks, to avoid a shortage of masks for patients, doctors nurses, EMT’s etc. But a noble lie is a still a lie. You dont trust the word lies, even noble ones. You dont want to be a victim of somebody else’s noble lie.

Dr Fauci’s deceptions about the origin of Covid were also, he thought, noble. He deceived the public, first, to protect “gain of function” research, a program he thought was essentiual, while others thought it was reckless. Second, to avoid Sino-American political conflict.

Of course, one always expects that a few top guys will be deceptive, like Dr Fauci. But this goes far beyond Dr Fauci. It condemns the public health authorites, learned scientists, his peers, his underlings, by the media and the elite. If they dont repudiate dishonesty, what reasonable person would believe anything they say about anything?


28 posted on 12/07/2023 2:19:47 PM PST by OVERTIME (Tammie Lee Haynes)
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To: nickcarraway

Measles is not Smallpox or Polio. When I was a kid, everybody got it and survived quite nicely.


29 posted on 12/07/2023 2:23:06 PM PST by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: nickcarraway

They are still calling it a "conspiracy theory"? That cat left the bag a long time ago. Catch up, morons. The question now is ... will the government allow suing Pfizer et.al. into oblivion? Hoping so. Go Texas!


30 posted on 12/07/2023 2:27:26 PM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: bella1

"Do you remember what happened to boys that got the mumps after going through puberty?"

If forced to risk ochitis or myocarditis, I'll go with ochitis every time. It's not even a competition. I can live without functioning testes far more comfortably than I can live without a functioning heart. You are making a point with your question, but not the point you think you are making. Public trust in big Pharma is gone for very good reason.


31 posted on 12/07/2023 2:34:23 PM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: so_real; bella1

Or maybe I misunderstood your point?


32 posted on 12/07/2023 2:36:50 PM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: so_real
So you are willing to risk being sterile? That might qualify for the Darwin awards.
33 posted on 12/08/2023 5:55:04 AM PST by bella1 (Tytler's Cycle of Democracy)
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To: bella1

"So you are willing to risk being sterile? That might qualify for the Darwin awards."

Sterile vs dead ... Yes, I'll risk sterility over death. Ochitis among mumps sufferers was clinically rare. So it's a small risk, and none of those with ochitis suffered from "died suddenly and unexpectedly syndrome" like contemporary vaccination victims with myocarditis do. So better to take a small risk than to allow big pharma to pump God-knows-what into me. Life is risk and smart people know how to minimize it.


34 posted on 12/08/2023 7:35:14 AM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: nickcarraway

It isn’t a matter of being “anti-vaccine”, it’s a matter that a completely ineffective, potentially deadly Fauci Flu therapeutic was deliberately and purposefully re-defined as a “vaccine”; a deliberate tactic often employed by people with evil intentions (think, “immigrant” and “illegal alien” ... and there are many more examples of the Left’s truly amazing ability to control language).


35 posted on 12/08/2023 7:43:22 AM PST by glennaro (Never give up ... never give in ... never surrender ... and enjoy every minute of doing so.)
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To: glennaro

Trust is the coin of the realm.

And Deep States, plural, are flat busted.


36 posted on 12/08/2023 7:44:34 AM PST by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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