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Napoleon, review: blunt-force charisma from Joaquin Phoenix in Ridley Scott’s dark, epic biopic
UK Style Yahoo ^ | 22 Nov 2023 | Robbie Collin

Posted on 11/26/2023 8:06:44 PM PST by Rummyfan

If, at 85, Ridley Scott has reached the final season of his filmmaking career, Napoleon is the ideal work of wintry grandeur to mark it. Scott’s 28th feature is a magnificently hewn slab of dad cinema with a chill wind whistling over its battlefields and round its bones: its palette is so cold, even the red in the tricolore is often the shade of dried blood.

Spanning 32 years, from the outbreak of the French Revolution in 1789 to its title character’s death on St Helena in 1821, it casts Napoleon Bonaparte’s rise, reign and downfall as both a prickly psychodrama and a sweeping military epic, in which the intimate lives of its central players and the fate of France itself become instantly and anxiously entwined.

Napoleon himself is played with startling blunt-force charisma by Joaquin Phoenix, who is working again with Scott for the first time since 2000’s Gladiator. Phoenix’s undisguised soft Californian accent is one of a number of details that might irk historical sticklers – television’s Dan Snow has already chimed in with a list of inaccuracies, to which Scott’s not unreasonable response was “get a life”. But on screen it’s oddly ideal, reinforcing the idea that this Corsican roughneck can never fully settle into the role for which history has him picked out.

We get the measure of the man almost instantly at the Siege of Toulon, as the French Republican forces lay siege to the British-occupied harbour fort. In the dead of night, as Napoleon leads the advance, a cannonball tears through the shoulder of his horse – the film earns its 15 certificate fast – though almost before he hits the ground he hurriedly barks “I’m OK,” and strides on, shaken but resolute, and smeared with the blood of his steed.

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To: Rummyfan
Phoenix’s undisguised soft Californian accent is one of a number of details that might irk historical sticklers

Some critics speculate that that's intentional. Phoenix's accent differs from the other actors, in the same way that Napoleon's Corsican accent must have sounded different to the Parisians.

61 posted on 11/27/2023 2:02:33 AM PST by Angelino97
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To: Billthedrill
Or a woman. If Disney made it, they’d put a chick in it and make her gay...

I've read that the film over-emphasizes the historical importance of Josephine.

62 posted on 11/27/2023 2:04:25 AM PST by Angelino97
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To: Billthedrill
Or make Josephine a trans.

-PJ

63 posted on 11/27/2023 2:05:32 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Maris Crane

“IF THEY HAVE TO KILL A HORSE ...”
OK, at least you honestly state your point of view, thanks.
Now the rest of us can view your criticism accurately and adjust our opinion of your review appropriately.
Personally, I don’t think seeing an image of brutality will affect me much, but I might not take one of my more sensitive kids to see it.


64 posted on 11/27/2023 2:48:45 AM PST by conejo99
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To: Repeal The 17th

“ My grandfather was named Napoleon.
My father in law was named Lafayette.
Yeah ... we are an odd crew for down here in the old south.”

Up here in Connecticut I worked with a fellow named Napoleon Samson. Talk about a name impossible to live up to…


65 posted on 11/27/2023 2:52:33 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: imabadboy99

This movie is very very shocking.... in that they did not find a black person to play napoleon.

A black female transgender would have been perfect for the role!


66 posted on 11/27/2023 3:27:41 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: TheWriterTX

Scott said his original cut is over 4 hours and he’ll release that on Blue Ray.


67 posted on 11/27/2023 3:32:05 AM PST by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects Trump is being given the Alex Jones tr)
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To: Squawk 8888

They were filmed in Betamax.


68 posted on 11/27/2023 4:12:59 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (I stayed drug - free going on 64 years for this?)
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To: Maris Crane
Even if what happened was true...it is just too barbaric to depict.

I respect your opinion. I didn’t realize however how important it was in that period to kill horses until I recently visited Gettysburg. Horses were frequently a main target and thousands died and lay rotting in the fields. It took something like thirteen horses to move a cannon. If you stopped the horses you stopped the cannon from moving. Removal of horse corpses was as challenging as removing human ones.

In my opinion the representation of how many horses were killed has been drastically UNDERSTATED in historical depictions, and that you truly can’t accurately depict battles of the time without including these terrible but historical facts.

I haven’t seen the movie and likely won’t for a while. I certainly hope no animals were actually harmed during its production.
69 posted on 11/27/2023 4:19:00 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: buwaya

He’s in hell so what does it matter? The end is far more important than the beginning. And for that matter, he slaughtered millions on all sides.


70 posted on 11/27/2023 4:21:01 AM PST by uscga77 (the truth remains)
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To: wardaddy

But is Joaquin Phoenix a better bowler?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/bill-ted-actor-reflects-on-playing-napoleon-shares-thoughts-on-joaquin-phoenix-movie/ar-AA1kw7c1


71 posted on 11/27/2023 4:23:44 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (I stayed drug - free going on 64 years for this?)
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To: Guenevere

I’m with you. Movies aren’t truth. Nobody is enlightened by seeing sex scenes. Everyone knows husbands and wives have sex. Everybody know soldiers swear.
Basically movie sex scenes and constant swearing is wallowing in the gutter and some of us aren’t entertained by that.


72 posted on 11/27/2023 4:27:27 AM PST by Varda
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To: Maris Crane

Is this correct? It is alright to depict the deaths of tens of thousands of humans in the various Napoleonic battles but not the death of one horse? Thousands and thousands of horses perished. It would be a farce to make a movie about Napoleon and not note the deaths, both human and animal, in which he played a significant role.


73 posted on 11/27/2023 4:37:29 AM PST by .44 Special (Taimid Buacharch)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Originally a Spanish colony, lateer sold to the French and subsequently to the United States.


74 posted on 11/27/2023 4:39:56 AM PST by .44 Special (Taimid Buacharch)
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To: Rummyfan

If yahoo says it sucks it is probably good


75 posted on 11/27/2023 4:43:19 AM PST by slapshot ( - Get woke go broke-l)
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To: Rummyfan
Great movie, it is a movie and not a direct historical drama, I have studied Napoleon and the wars and historically close enough for telling the story of this historic character. Not a big fan of Joaquin but thought he did well in this one. Ridley Scott, congrats on the project. Go see it on the big screen.
76 posted on 11/27/2023 4:51:08 AM PST by Jolla
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To: buwaya
She had been involved with the court of Marie Antoinette and always retained the remarkable poise and genuine charm that characterized the Bourbon regime

It was the reason she had so many truly personal and long standing relationships with politicians and others throughout the pre and post revolutionary era. She was accepted and appreciated by people on both sides of French politics ... even until the end. It's the reason too, that after Napoleon's abdication, the leader of Russia, and other enemies of France, made it a point to visit her and to show her the respect due an empress. She represented both the old regime and the Empire.

I think that her status and connection to so many old regime personalities is the main reason that he married her. It's how he got his ticket punched ... so to speak. After the revolution, French politics remained unsettled and confused but her friends still held enough power and influence to help to him along. She validated his position and made it easier for him to gain their interest and support. Many people who disliked him, tolerated him out of respect for her.

77 posted on 11/27/2023 4:51:11 AM PST by SMARTY ("A lie which is half a truth is ever the blackest of lies." Tennyson)
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To: Rummyfan

It was a well done fun movie to watch. Not Phoniex’s best performance but very enjoyable. Definitely worth the price of admission.


78 posted on 11/27/2023 4:54:01 AM PST by Fzob (“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential)
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To: alexander_busek
Lots of people in Europe and elsewhere lost respect for Napoleon after certainly after he made himself ‘emperor’...many too, after the murder of Duc d’Enghein (sp?).

Military officers were disappointed with the coronation as well and some actually attended under duress. The event was carried out in a way that matched the pomp and splendor of Bourbon times. Many notable Marshals and other ranks had held on to their ‘republican’ spirit and the idea of a crowned head of France certainly didn't go down well.

There is a story that Marshal Ney attended the coronation and was surly the whole time, mumbling and obviously disapproving. At one point he said (loudly enough to be overheard) ... “Two million Frenchmen died to put and end to this kind of s*&t.”

79 posted on 11/27/2023 5:10:24 AM PST by SMARTY ("A lie which is half a truth is ever the blackest of lies." Tennyson)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Napoleons House is my favorite bar in N’Orleans.


80 posted on 11/27/2023 5:14:59 AM PST by Jolla
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