Update from Ukraine | Ukraine Continue to Push the Ruzzian Army on the South | Verbove is next

Youtube.com ^ | 11-15-2023 | Denys Davydov

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Update from Ukraine | Ukraine Continue to Push the Ruzzian Army on the South | Verbove is next

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBqrvqOtXZQ

Recap Deployment Map changes – Week 45 November 13, 2023

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[NOTE: two summaries per week, released on Wednesday and Sunday]

*** Great interactive maps with viewer controlled Map magnification tool to use for each Front!

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[kiryandil]

I guess the Bro doesn't understand that ANY information that is political on Wikipedia is worth less than a pile of rotting garbage...

The collapse of Project Ukraine has BroK Joe's mind...

[BroJoeK]

JonPreston: "Typical moderate Republican, as you are
The Moderate and the McCarthyite: The Case of Robert Taft"

Your 2013 article describes Taft as I remember and learned about him, along with Eisenhower and McCarthy.
Taft was "Mr. Conservative" and Eisenhower was also conservative, certainly by standards of today.
Taft and Ike got along well.

Taft's views on McCarthy were the same as mine -- McCarthy did some good work, exposing corruptions in our government, and that was very useful, however, McCarthy was also careless in accusing sometimes innocent people.

As for some children of famous Republicans, Liz Cheney comes to mind, and the Bushes, this John Taft seems to be in that same mold.

My point about "Mr. Conservative", Ohio Sen. Robert Taft is that he got along well with Republican Pres. Eisenhower and Eisenhower supported NATO and the policy of "containment" against Chi-Com and Old Soviet empire building.
There was nothing "neo-con" about either Taft or Eisenhower.

In 1953 US military spending was, relative to GDP, four times what it is today.
When Eisenhower left office in 1961, US defense spending was still over three times what it is today, relative to GDP.

[BroJoeK]

JonPreston: "The Wiki numbers you're using were last edited in March 2022"

If you click on the edit history, you'll see that article has been edited many times in just the past four months alone.

Nevertheless, if you imagine those numbers are unrealistic, then you might want to point to other sources you consider more reliable.

[BroJoeK]

E. Pluribus Unum: "Whatever you say, Mr. Soros.
How is the money laundering operation going?"

Meaning, you've got nothing to offer -- no facts, no logic, no reasons, no data, no arguments worth the name.
All you've got are ridiculous insults and ludicrous accusations.

And that is totally typical of our pro-Russian propagandists.

[BroJoeK]

E. Pluribus Unum: quoting George Soros in support of Ukraine.

Even a broken clock tells the correct time twice per day.

Soros is as evil as they come, but it wouldn't be our first unholy alliance -- in WWII we allied with and fully supported one of history's greatest monsters, "Uncle Joe" Stalin.

[BroJoeK]

JonPreston: "Silly Neocon, doing that George Bush fuzzy math again.
The same nonsense Mayorkas and Biden try to push past sleepy American dolts."

You realize those are just meaningless nonsense words, word-salad pointing to nothing because nothing is all you have to offer here.

JonPreston: "More illegals apprehended at the border is an indication of a much bigger illegal problem.
It doesn't mean our border crisis is resolved. "

Then you comprehend literally nothing.
According to the Biden administration, there is no border crisis, and that's because it's all happening according to their plans and policies.

They are utterly corrupt and the corruption will not end until Democrats are removed from political power.

JonPreston: "Likewise, more "Ukrainians big wigs arrested or fired for corruption" actually means there is still a much larger number of corrupt actors at play. "

Possibly, potentially you are correct, but at least, unlike the USA and Russia, Ukrainians are waging serious warfare against their own corrupt officials.

In the USA, by contrast, our Democrats wage "law-far" against potential Republican opponents.

JonPreston: "Unless you believe that Zelensky is actually Churchill-like and has the endemic, decades long, theft and corruption (the same problem CIA director William Burns has addressed with Zelensky personally) under control."

Of course, Zelenskyy is Ukraine's version of Churchill, but I can only go by the numbers from the Corruption Perceptions Index.
Those numbers show Ukraine's remarkable improvements in corruption over the past 25 years, the USA's disheartening "fall from grace" in those same years and Russia remaining relatively as corrupt today as it ever was:

[BroJoeK]

kiryandil: "I guess the Bro doesn't understand that ANY information that is political on Wikipedia is worth less than a pile of rotting garbage..."

And yet... and yet... nobody has ever produced numbers that are arguably superior to the Wiki-numbers -- not JonPreston, not kiryandil, nor anybody else.

When you guys finally find more accurate numbers, be sure to post them here, along with your reasons for believing your numbers are superior.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Poor widdow baby.

[Menes]

True, but it has always seemed to me that neither side‘s hearts were in this alliance - it has always looked, how do you say, a little uneasy…

And after the victory, it came undone rather quickly. The ideological gap, or rather, ideological chasm, between both sides, had simply turned out to be too large. So it soon was: hello, Cold War 🙁

Sorry for off-topic.

[JonPreston]

Kookies for Kiev. The end is nigh!

[JonPreston]

And yet... and yet... nobody has ever produced numbers that are arguably superior to the Wiki-numbers

BroJ is very angry this morning. Perhaps more typing will soothe his soul

"People using CIA and FBI computers have edited entries in the online encyclopedia Wikipedia on topics including the Iraq war and the Guantanamo prison, according to a new tracing program. The changes may violate Wikipedia's conflict-of-interest guidelines, a spokeswoman for the site said Thursday"

CIA, FBI computers used for Wikipedia edits

[kiryandil]

And STILL the Bro clings on to his garbage Wikipedia numbers - like Linus with his blanket in the pumpkin patch.

"And then the Great Ukrainian Counteroffensive will rise over Crimea..."

    

[BroJoeK]

E. Pluribus Unum: "Poor widdow baby."

And still, you've got nothing.

[BroJoeK]

Menes: "True, but it has always seemed to me that neither side‘s hearts were in this alliance - it has always looked, how do you say, a little uneasy…"

Obviously, it was more "uneasy" for some than for others.
Some reveled in it and the US government was shot through with "Uncle Joe" Stalin's spies, who kept him fully informed as to what we were doing, most notably on the Manhattan project.
Turns out, "Uncle Joe" knew more about Manhattan than VP Harry Truman did!

Not FDR's fault, you say?
Well, then consider this -- FDR's administration had no problems seeking out, hunting down and rooting out Nazi spies & supporters.
Even suspicion of collaboration was enough for FDR to put pro-Nazis in camps.

But FDR never found even one Soviet spy, never even looked for them, didn't seem to care.
And US aid to "Uncle Joe" was massive, much as the Soviets denied it ever since, it was critical in keeping the Soviet war-machine running.

So it wasn't just that we were on the same side, we were right there massively helping and also letting Soviets steal our best secrets.

And the result was, we achieved Unconditional Surrender of all the Axis powers, who are today some our our closest friends and allies, while "Uncle Joe" has been restored to honor throughout the Russian Federation and has been reincarnated in the form of Old Soviet KGB Col. Vlad the Invader.

Of course, I'm not comparing George Soros to Uncle Joe, but necessity can sometimes make for strange bed-fellows.

[BroJoeK]

JonPreston: "Kookies for Kiev. The end is nigh!"

Seriously? That's all you've got?

It's nothing.

[BroJoeK]

JonPreston: "BroJ is very angry this morning. Perhaps more typing will soothe his soul"

And yet, still, you've got nothing to offer, no facts, no logic, no reasons, no data, no arguments worth the name.

Where are your numbers?

[BroJoeK]

kiryandil: "And STILL the Bro clings on to his garbage Wikipedia numbers - like Linus with his blanket in the pumpkin patch."

And yet, and yet... you have produced no numbers of your own that you might even argue are more reliable.

Meaning, you've nothing -- no facts, no logic, no reasons, no data, no arguments worth the name.
All you can do is blast away with ridiculous nonsense.

And that is 100% typical of Russian propagandists.

[JonPreston]

Where are your numbers?

[JonPreston]

CIA and FBI computers used for Wikipedia edits

[kiryandil]

You can tell the neo-klowns that Wikipedia is a hot politicized mess all day long, and they'll still claim that the "data" on Wikipedia is ALL GOOD - as long as it agrees with their blinkered world view.