Update from Ukraine | Ukraine Continue to Push the Ruzzian Army on the South | Verbove is next

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Update from Ukraine | Ukraine Continue to Push the Ruzzian Army on the South | Verbove is next

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBqrvqOtXZQ

Recap Deployment Map changes – Week 45 November 13, 2023

https://militaryland.net/news/recap-deployment-map-changes-week-45/

[NOTE: two summaries per week, released on Wednesday and Sunday]

*** Great interactive maps with viewer controlled Map magnification tool to use for each Front!

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You sound angry, mommy.

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‘They Changed Tactics’: Ukrainian Troops Push Back Against Russian Assault On Avdiyivka
Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty
761K subscriber
11-16-2023 5:30 a.m.
3:30 Minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-Xuw_N7bCE

Ukrainian troops continue to hold out in Avdiyivka as Russian forces attack the industrial city in the Donetsk region. Moscow launched an offensive on the area in early October in an effort to seize the frontline territory.

Russian forces have suffered heavy losses during the onslaught, according to Ukrainian officials. Despite the daily fighting, some 1,500 residents continue to live among the ruins of their once peaceful neighborhoods.

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[fieldmarshaldj]

Forget it, that one is a Red Chinese troll.

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VIDEOS

1. “Hellish” attack on Russian trench -Footage of close-range battle with invaders in Bakhmut direction
Kanal13
1.6M subscribers
11-16-2023 2:00 p.m. EST
2:53 Minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geWahyR8JCU

2. Ukrainian sabotage group enters Russians’ resting area in Zaporizhia, invaders are destroyed
Kanal13
1.6M subscribers
11-16-2023 7:30 p.m. EST
1:26 Minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-qR9goEQ1c

[BroJoeK]

JonPreston: "Not for Ruzzia.
They have more than a million men under arms, while Zelenskyy is down to dragging 40 year olds off the street."

Estimates I've seen of total Ukrainian armed forces, including police, are circa one million.
Estimates of Ukraine's maximum potential military manpower population are something like 20 million.

However, if we compare to Israel, out of 9 million total population, Israel has about 3 million of military age, of whom roughly 1 million serve in some capacity, especially reserves.
For Ukraine, that would mean possibly 33 million total population, around 10+ million of normal military age with potentially 3+ million serving in some capacity.

Estimates of Russian forces in and around Ukraine are in the 300,000 range.

All that said, what seems certain is that the dictator Vlad the Invader can sustain "Meat Wave" assault losses in the range of 1,000 per day, while more democratic Ukrainians obviously cannot.

[JonPreston]

Your Neocon moment is over.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov is the Greatest Diplomat

Sergey Lavrov: The 500-year-long era of the West’s global dominance is over.

pic.twitter.com/KVGTZqDeNT— Ignorance, the root and stem of all evil (@ivan_8848) November 17, 2023

[JonPreston]

Estimates I've seen of total Ukrainian armed forces, including police, are circa one million.

You didn't see anything. Those "estimates" are a product of the pretend world you live in. Please continue.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

"...more democratic Ukrainians..."

You are so FOS.

[BroJoeK]

JonPreston quoting: "On the occasion of the visit of an African peace delegation on June 17, 2023, Putin demonstratively showed the agreement accepted and initialed in Istanbul ad referendum to the cameras."

We've covered this ground before, and it's worth remembering the timeline of such events:

1. February 22, 2022 Vlad the Invader began his 2nd invasion of Ukraine (the first was in 2014).

2. Early March, 2022 -- Israel's "Naftali Bennett had undertaken mediation efforts beginning in the first week of March 2022.
   In a video interview with Israeli journalist Hanoch Daum on February 4, 2023, he spoke for the first time in detail about the process and the end of the negotiations.
   This video interview is the basis of a detailed report in the Berliner Zeitung of February 6, 2023

3. March 16, 2022, US Pres. Biden's supplemental ~$7 billion in military aid to Ukraine, ~$14 billion total, 1st commitment.

4. March 29, 2022, The text of the Istanbul Communiqué included 10 proposals:

5. The critical role of Americans is only alleged by Russia's paid agent, former German Chancellor Gerhard Schröder, who said in 2023:
   “At the peace negotiations in March 2022 in Istanbul with Rustem Umerov (then security advisor to Zelensky, now Ukrainian defense minister), the Ukrainians did not agree to peace because they were not allowed to.
   They first had to ask the Americans about everything they discussed,” and continued:
   “But at the end (of the peace negotiations) nothing happened.
   My impression was that nothing could happen because everything else was decided in Washington.
   That was fatal.”

   Paid Russian agent Schroeder claims Ukraine rejected Vlad the Invader's "peace deal" because of American interference.
   The 100% more logical explanation is along these lines: Americans told Ukraine, "we will support your war against Vlad the Invader for as long as it takes. When you sign a peace deal with Vlad, then we Americans will stop sending you military & other aid."

   So the Ukrainian government decided 100% on its own to tell Vlad the Invader where to stick his peace deal.

6. April 12, 2022 "the Neue Züricher Zeitung (NZZ) reported that the British government under Johnson is counting on a Ukrainian military victory.
   Conservative Member of the House of Commons Alicia Kearns said, “We’d rather arm the Ukrainians to the teeth than give Putin a success.”
   British Foreign Secretary (and later Prime Minister) Liz Truss professed in a keynote speech that “victory for Ukraine (…) is a strategic imperative for us all and therefore military support must be massively expanded”.

   Regardless of such brave talk, to my knowledge there was never an actual plan for Ukrainian victory.

7. "April 26, 2022, meeting of defense ministers from NATO members and other countries convened by Austin in Ramstein, Rhineland-Palatinate/ Germany, the Pentagon chief declared the military victory of Ukraine as a strategic goal."

   Regardless of whatever brave talk we heard from Defense Secretary Austin, the fact remains there was never an actual plan for Ukrainian victory, so far as I know.

8. May 21, 2022 US committed another ~$20 in military aid, ~$40 billion total, 2nd committment.

9. June 30, 2022 US Pres. Biden was first reported to promise support to Ukraine, "for as long as it takes" -- though I remember that pledge coming much earlier, in April.
   Regardless, there was apparently no actual plan for victory to back up such brave words.

10. September 30, 2022 US adds another $7 billion in military aid, $12 billion total, 3rd commitment.

Furthermore, despite these numerous reports from 2023, in 2022 it was actually Vlad the Invader himself who was turning down potential peace deals:

We read this report from the Moscow Times, dated September 14, 2022, over a year ago:

"Russian President Vladimir Putin had rejected a potential deal with Ukraine offered by his key envoy in the early days of the invasion as he “expanded” his goals to include annexing more territory, Reuters reported Wednesday, citing three unnamed sources close to Russia's leadership.
Kremlin deputy chief of staff Dmitry Kozak, Putin’s chief envoy on Ukraine, was said to have secured a deal guaranteeing that Ukraine would not join NATO — a key Russian demand prior to its full-scale invasion of its pro-Western neighbor.
According to Reuters, Putin made clear that Kozak’s deal with an unspecified number of Ukrainian concessions did not go far enough.
Putin reportedly “expanded his objectives to include annexing swathes of Ukrainian territory,” Reuters reported. “Everything was canceled.
Putin simply changed the plan as he went along,” one of Reuters’ sources was quoted as saying."

So, in 2022 it was Vlad the Invader who rejected a proposed peace deal but now suddenly, in 2023, it wasn't Putin, it was Zelenskyy who turned it down, and it wasn't even Zelenskyy, it was actually "the Americans"??

"The Kremlin denied the Reuters report’s authenticity, with spokesman Dmitry Peskov telling the British news agency that “No such thing ever happened.”
The report comes as Ukraine, riding on the success of a lightning counteroffensive in its northeast and south, has signaled no interest in new talks with Russia.
While Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said this week that Moscow does not oppose talks with Ukraine, ex-President Dmitry Medvedev called for “the total surrender of the Kyiv regime on Russia’s terms” in a social media post."

Bottom line: I've never seen a statement from any Ukrainian official saying they were willing to accept peace with Russia on Vlad the Invader's terms.

[JonPreston]

Wrong again. Kiev is about to fall

‼️Breaking:

Possible Coup in Ukraine

According to Zelensky, Russia is attempting to orchestrate a coup in Kiev. The Ukrainian dictator stressed that it's not safe anymore in the country and the west seems to have turned it's back.

Ukrainian "intelligence" claims that in… pic.twitter.com/UVakANdayw— Spetsnaℤ 007 🇷🇺 (@Alex_Oloyede2) November 17, 2023

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Check dates for your info:

In November 2021, top Ukrainian government officials outlined allegations of a plot to overthrow the democratically elected government of Ukraine which was to take place in early December of that year.

The coup plot was allegedly orchestrated by Russia. The Russian government denied any involvement. Some months later, Russia launched an invasion of Ukraine, with the toppling of the Ukrainian government being one of its objectives.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Ukrainian_coup_attempt_allegations

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VIDEO COMMENTARY

16 Nov: BREAKING POINT. Russians Sent DRUGGED SOLDIERS TO STORM POWERFUL DEFENSE | War in Ukraine
Reporting from Ukraine
437K subscribers
11-17-2023 1:45 a.m. EST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riQRVzgJID0

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I am Ukrainian. My country has been invaded by Russia. In this video I will tell you what happened on the six-hundred-thirty-first day of the war.

Day 631: Nov 16

Today, there are a lot of updates from the Avdiivka direction.

Here, Russian forces recently conducted a new massive wave of attacks in the northern part of the region, mostly consisting of infantry. The main goal of this operation was to breach the Ukrainian defense in front of Terrikon and establish a foothold on the territory of the chemical plant.

Recently released footage by Russian sources shows the aftermath of the morning airstrikes on the chemical plant. Some Russian military analysts claimed that Russian forces started using even bigger air-dropped bombs, namely FAB-3000, which is a 3000-kilogram bomb containing 1400 kilograms of explosive charge. The bomb is designed primarily for the destruction of industrial and urban facilities.

A Ukrainian fighter that is defending the chemical plant posted a video showing the result of the airstrikes. As you can see, despite continuous strikes with massive bombs, due to the sheer scale of the chemical plant and the rigidity of the structures, it is very hard to reduce it to ruins or even undermine the defense.

Nonetheless, after conducting the strike, Russian forces launched a powerful infantry assault from the tree lines in front of the settlement. Unfortunately for Russians, most of them did not manage to cross even 100 meters. A Ukrainian drone operator from the forty-seventh mechanized brigade released a video showing how he targeted one of the Russian units in the area. The objective of the assault unit was to advance from the dense tree belts and take control of the building 180 meters from their positions. However, the Russian soldiers from the video managed to cross just 90 meters before being destroyed by drones.

Another attack on the chemical plant came from the north. The main objective of the Russian soldiers in this area was to move along this tree line and establish control over at least the first 100 meters. A Russian fighter who was sent to storm Ukrainian positions filmed the aftermath of the attack. He showed the Ukrainian chemical plant toward which they were moving, and here I have to pause the video because when he lowered the camera, the ground around him was full of fallen Russian soldiers. He was standing in the middle, surrounded by corpses, and said that they incurred disproportionately high losses compared to Ukrainians.

Both Russian and Ukrainian sources recently circulated footage showing how Russian commanders are punishing Russian soldiers for the prevalent use of drugs.

As said in the video, the soldiers were afraid to go on what they themselves considered a suicide mission and used drugs, which is why the whole detachment was simply annihilated. So, if previously the biggest problem Russian low-level commanders faced was an abuse of alcohol by the personnel, then now the problem has been exacerbated, and the use of drugs becomes the main issue, especially around Donetsk and Avdiivka, because this is a densely populated area, simplifying the access to such things.

The Russian frontal attacks become even more self-destructive every day as Ukrainians are conducting counter-battery fire. A Russian soldier posted a video showing the destruction of a Uragan artillery system. In this case, there was no direct hit, the Ukrainian shell fell several meters away from the vehicle but caused the detonation of the rockets. Another Russian soldier released a video showing what happens when a HIMARS rocket hits a Russian artillery system MSTA-S. The vehicle was simply disintegrated. Even the engine and chassis were scattered across the field, while the top part was never even seen.

Overall, the motivation of the Russian soldiers to continue the offensive operation is extremely low. The soldiers understand that their chances of survival are close to zero, which is why the use of forbidden substances is at all times high.

Moreover, the destruction of the Russian artillery means that the Russian infantry has to advance without sufficient artillery support, incurring even more losses. And this has already been reflected in the total losses that Russians incurred today, more precisely, 1330 killed and wounded. As the quality of Russian attacks decreases, the probability that Ukrainian fighters will manage to withstand the Russian offensive becomes higher and higher.

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[Cronos]

Ivan Presto - you are consistently wrong, you said back in Feb 2022 that Kyiv would fall, then you claim again, in November 2023 that

“Wrong again. Kiev is about to fall” —> https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4197170/posts?page=153#153

Do you like being wrong consistenly?

[BroJoeK]

Reno89519: "Ukraine and Russia are involved in a civil war, nothing more."

That is a 100% Russian propaganda lie, and if you can't see the lie in it, then you have been victimized & bewitched by evil forces working for our destruction.

The fact is, there's nothing "civil" about it, rather it is an unprovoked, highly illegal invasion of sovereign Ukraine territory by a foreign army.

When we combine Russia's Vlad the Invader with his new Axis of Evil -- the CCP's Xi-snake, NoKo's Little Kim and Iran's Moolah Mullahs -- we see events today mirroring those in history, at times when all were "not our wars" until suddenly they became our war, with untold costs in blood and treasure worldwide.

Reno89519: "But killing, raping, and taking Americans hostage in Gaza is.
Surely you can see the difference."

Sure, and it's all the same thing -- just as in WWII, the Axis of Evil today threatens our friends and allies wherever we look weak, stupid and/or corrupt, be it Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan or... you name it, there are long lists of other conflicts with Russia, China and Iran.
For starters, China has claimed territories belonging to:

1. Philippines
2. Vietnam
3. Japan
4. Nepal
5. Bhutan
6. India
7. Indonesia
8. Malasia
9. Laos
10. South Korea
11. North Korea
12. Mongolia
13. Myanmar
14. Tibet
15. Taiwan

Here is a partial listing of countries Vlad the Invader has threatened or invaded in recent years:

1. Azerbaijan (1990–1994);[1][2]
2. Moldova (1992–present);
3. Georgia (2004–present);
4. Lithuania (2006);
5. Estonia (2006–2007);
6. Poland (2006–present);
7. Belarus (2007);
8. Ukraine (2014–present);
9. Syria (2015–present);
10. Turkey (2015–2016);
11. Kazakhstan (2021–2022);[3] and
12. Armenia (2022)[4] amongst others.[5]

Here is a partial listing of countries threatened or attacked by Iran:

1. Iraq
2. Saudi Arabia
3. Syria
4. Lebanon
5. Israel
6. USA
7. Bahrain
8. Yemen

Of course, the US cannot defend all those countries, however, the CCP's, Russia's and Iran's behaviors are constantly kept in check by the superiority of American arms and allies over anything they might cobble together against us -- at least that was true until now.

Reno89519: "And propaganda?
Wow, if you don’t see the paid trash posted day in and day out on Ukraine as anything but propaganda, I presume you are part of the Ukrainian criminal enterprise yourself."

Sorry, but now you're just babbling nonsense, meaning: just because you loathe and despise what's true, that doesn't make it "propaganda".

The facts and truth about Ukraine are so simple and direct there's no need to resort to lies or propaganda to explain Ukraine's side -- unlike Vlad the Invader's highly illegal "special military operations" which must be obscured in great clouds of smoke, mirrors, personal attacks and propaganda lies.

The truth is, there's nothing "criminal" about sovereign Ukraine's war for independence against "mother Russia", while at the same time, there's nothing lawful about Vlad the Invader's repeated aggressions against his many sovereign neighbors, including Ukraine.

How you, Reno89519, can fail to see all that is beyond my understandings.

[BroJoeK]

House Atreides: "Yes, the headline (like the headlines for the great bulk of YouTube videos) is written in clickbait fashion.
But that particular channel does try to present tactical news from BOTH sides and he does try to conduct a reasonably honest analysis of the situation which is why I posted it."

Your YouTube poster is clearly biased in favor of Russia, but I had no trouble listening to his presentation.
I simply noted his biases and any inaccuracies I could detect.

There are people who follow pro-Russian media, just to keep track of what they are trying to sell lately.
Professor Gerdes is one.
I expect it's exacting, demanding work and I don't have the patience for it.

Right here on Free Republic is about as close as I want to get to all that nonsense.

[BroJoeK]

JonPreston: "I would think removing dictator Zelensky from power would be patriotic?"

Mopnterrosa-24: "Zelensky has been in power less than 1/6th the time Putin has been in power and Putin is a true dictator.
Zelensky is Mister Klean compared to Putin "

Right, calling Zelenskyy a "dictator" is just insane nonsense, and I don't understand where it comes from.

In the 24 years that Vlad the Invader has ruled over Russia, Ukraine has constitutionally elected five different presidents and six parliaments with different political majorities.
The most recent was in 2019 and Volodymyr Zelenskyy's "Servant of the People" party was elected precisely because they promised to clean up Ukraine's corruptions.
By all accounts, Zelenskyy's government has done just that, firing or arresting many corrupt officials, something the United States government could study and emulate.

In the meantime, Russia's Vlad the Invader is said to be one of the -- if not the -- world's wealthiest men, though western seizures of $ hundreds of billions in Russian foreign assets may put a temporary crimp in Vlad's otherwise lavish lifestyles.

Still, where by all accounts Ukraine's corruptions are steadily being eliminated, Russia's today are what they've always been, since at least 1991.

Why is that so hard for someone like JonPreston to see?

[JonPreston]

by all accounts Ukraine's corruptions are steadily being eliminated

List a link to an account that shows corruption is being eliminated.