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Weekly Garden Thread - November 11-17, 2023 [Roasted Vegetable Recipes Edition]
November 11, 2023 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 11/11/2023 5:55:25 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

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To: FRiends

Roasted Brussels Sprouts

Ingredients

1 ½ pounds Brussels sprouts, ends trimmed and yellow leaves removed

3 tablespoons olive oil

1 teaspoon kosher salt

½ teaspoon freshly ground black pepper

Directions

Gather all ingredients.

Preheat oven to 400 degrees F (205 degrees C).

Place trimmed Brussels sprouts, olive oil, kosher salt, and pepper in a large resealable plastic bag. Seal tightly, and shake to coat.

Pour onto a baking sheet, and place on center oven rack.

Roast in the preheated oven for 30 to 45 minutes, shaking pan every 5 to 7 minutes for even browning. Reduce heat when necessary to prevent burning. Brussels sprouts should be darkest brown, almost black, when done. Adjust seasoning with kosher salt, if necessary. Serve immediately.

https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/67952/roasted-brussels-sprouts/

Diana’s Notes: Serve with a drizzle of that Balsamic Reduction Glaze I posted last week. Also, crumbled BACON on top will win over any Brussels Sprouts naysayers.

Balsamic Glaze Reduction recipe:

https://www.savoryexperiments.com/balsamic-reduction-sauce/#wprm-recipe-container-18372

(If you don’t already KNOW how to make bacon, there is no hope for you in the kitchen, LOL!)


81 posted on 11/12/2023 6:16:54 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Pollard
I planted ONE Sungold in 2021 & then again in 2022. The plants are unbelievable - took over the raised bed they were in & were sprawled out in the walkways, into & over the fencing, etc. I gave gallon bags away to the Fire Department down the road all summer & the neighbors got them, too. I had big bowls in the house on the counter top & every time dad came by, he would grab a handful & eat them like candy - they are very sweet.

This year, mom wanted red cherry tomatoes so I had a Sweet 100 plant. It was ok & produced all she could eat, but it was definitely not as large/vigorous as the Sungold. I STILL ended up with Sungolds! A volunteer came up - found it's way to a crack in my weed barrier & grew right next to my herb bed - blocked the walkway, too. I let it go since it came up late - it bloomed and I picked several soup bowls full for mom to add to her salads. I finally got tired of it being in the way & cut it off - we had a frost shortly thereafter so I didn't miss many tomatoes (the Sweet 100 plant had given up the ghost weeks before).

5,000 seeds ... that is the stuff of 'nightmares'!! Sungolds could take over the world!!😲

82 posted on 11/12/2023 6:17:25 AM PST by Qiviut (If the genocide was unintentional, they would have pulled the poison vaccines, long ago.)
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83 posted on 11/12/2023 6:17:52 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Qiviut; Pollard

I gave up on ‘Sungolds.’ They taste amazing, but over-production and splitting were always an issue for me. I think another variety called ‘Sun Sugar’ is less prone to splitting?

My new favorite cherry is ‘Valentine.’ Nice and firm, red, pear-shaped but smaller than your standard pear tomato. Productive, no splitting, sweet enough but not sugary-sweet.

I grow ONE for us and that is plenty of cherries to eat and to share.


84 posted on 11/12/2023 6:21:13 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Pollard; All

I think I am going to get that book! Amazon has it for $10 & it has lots of 5-star ratings. Here’s the summary:

For more than 30 years, best-selling author and popular herbalist Rosemary Gladstar has been touting the health benefits of fire cider — a spicy blend of apple cider vinegar, onion, ginger, horseradish, garlic, and other immune-boosting herbs. Her original recipe, inspired by traditional cider vinegar remedies, has given rise to dozens of fire cider formulations created by fans of the tonic who use it to address everyday ills, from colds and flu to leg cramps and hangovers. Fire Cider! is a lively collection of 101 recipes contributed by more than 70 herbal enthusiasts, with energizing versions ranging from Black Currant Fire Cider to Triple Goddess Vinegar, Fire Cider Dark Moonshine, and Bloody Mary Fire Cider. Colorful asides, including tribute songs and amusing anecdotes, capture Gladstar’s passionate desire to pass along the fire cider tradition.

*************

PS - MY Fire Cider is very “zesty” .... about sets me on fire when I take it! I do a tablespoon a day for a health tonic. I would like to try a more ‘fruity’ recipe & this book evidently has those type recipes, too. Making your own Fire Cider is the way to go - to buy a 16 oz bottle is between $38-45. I made 2 quarts for under $20, the most expensive component being the organic apple cider vinegar (with the ‘mother’). Aldi’s has a quart of organic/with ‘mother’ for $4.99 which is the cheapest I’ve found. When I was making my Fire Cider, they were out of stock, so I had to buy some that was more expensive. At this point, I check for it at Aldi’s and if they have it, I buy a quart or two - stocking up!


85 posted on 11/12/2023 6:30:19 AM PST by Qiviut (If the genocide was unintentional, they would have pulled the poison vaccines, long ago.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’ve still got two tabs open from last week for Fire Cider recipes. The book looks like a cute novelty one to have.

Just drank my 5th cup of coffee waiting for the temperature to rise. Gonna go get a few bags of concrete here shortly. Ace opens at 9am. By the time I get back, it should be getting close to warm enough to paint.

I can kill time by digging holes for the tunnel frames. I had them all started but there’s been a change of plans. One of my arched pipes has rusted from the inside, probably before I got them, and I just now noticed it. That leaves me short so I’m going with 6 foot on center instead of 5 for truss frame spacing.

Kits come in either 4 or 6 foot spacing.

If I stuck with 5 foot, I’d end up with a 30’ tunnel instead of the original 35’. By increasing to 6’ spacing, I’ll get a 36’ tunnel but have to re-dig my holes. Luckily, I only dug them 6-8” deep so I could find and finish them later. I didn’t want a goat or myself to step in a 2 foot deep hole. Easy enough to fill them in with dirt scooped out of new holes.

I’ll only be digging one pair of holes today to get that first frame in the ground so it can set up overnight.


86 posted on 11/12/2023 6:40:39 AM PST by Pollard (The US government has US citizens as political prisoners!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
It's been mostly warm and very dry here in Central Missouri this past week. Cold front came through a couple days ago but it's still comfortable for getting the chores done outside.

The long Veteran's Day weekend combined with nice weather has provided the opportunity to start the garden rebuild project in earnest. I got all of the cages down and the duff mostly picked up on Friday, and got started tearing out fence and moving dirt. Spent most of yesterday doing the same. With any luck I'll have the last of the fence down today and most of the remaining soil hauled to the stash pile.

I separated the soil where the winter onions grow from the rest of it when I hauled it out of the garden. The onions should do well where I put them. Chances are good I'll just leave them out there rather than devoting a raised bed to them. If anyone wants to try growing them just send a PM with your address. I will share freely with anyone who is interested. I haven't dug the horseradish yet, but I will also be segregating that soil from the rest. There's a mountain of that stuff so if you want some just ask.

I'm not 100% certain what to do with the rhubarb roots when I dig them out. I think I'll pot them and mulch around the pots, then figure out where to replant them come spring. If that's wrong thinking someone please let me know.

I'm going to have literally tons of very nice garden soil left over after filling the raised beds. Mrs. Augie's flower beds are in for a real treat.

2023-11-10 11.11.11

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87 posted on 11/12/2023 6:51:10 AM PST by Augie
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; All

Those Brussels sprouts are how I’ve always made them. I will add your balsamic reduction glaze next time I make them.

An alternate recipe I’m trying to work on is for flash fried Brussels sprouts with white honey sesame glaze. Had these at a restaurant in Florida when we were there in early September, and they were THE BEST Brussels sprouts we’ve ever eaten. If anyone has any idea how to concoct this white honey sesame glaze, please let me know. They were sweet but not too sweet. It looked like thick white milk was drizzled over the crispy outside but soft inside of the sprouts. Amazing.


88 posted on 11/12/2023 7:51:34 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I got their 2024 catalog a couple days ago. They are early this year!


89 posted on 11/12/2023 8:44:54 AM PST by Ellendra (A single lie on our side does more damage than a thousand lies on their side.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"you have to take care of the children first"

And this is absolutely true and comes before most personal considerations!

90 posted on 11/12/2023 10:01:54 AM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Ellendra; metmom; Pollard; All
I was looking for sources for Indigo Milk Mushroom (Lots of protein). I did not find one but I did find a list of Sources for things like spawn and mushroom growing supplies. (Kits for oyster and shitake mushrooms.) Cornell College of Agriculture sources Find Mushroom Supplies

**The Wisconsin entry (Located in Pestigo) has kits and spawn products which include Morel and Winecap mushrooms. (Might be out stock since its out of season to plant)

Field & Forest Products

**This one is located in NW Illinois so not far from you Diana (or you Pollard! Less shipping time means you are more likely to get viable product.)

Out-grow

91 posted on 11/12/2023 10:22:42 AM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Augie
Nice machine! I love the have a great view across to your neighbors barn and granaries! (Probably because I am practically in the city.)

"the winter onions" I planted some overwintering multipier (potato) onions yesterday Is this the same thing?

92 posted on 11/12/2023 10:26:56 AM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Bon of Babble
From Terrestial Fungi, Bonsi Mushroom!

(Ganoderma multipileum)

Imagine in a green shadowed mossy Japanese Garden!

93 posted on 11/12/2023 12:08:06 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

I have always been slightly afraid of mushrooms - my grandmother used to pick them in the local fields (California) - and no one ever got sick and/or died.

There is this recent story out of Australia...

“Australian woman charged with feeding extremely deadly mushroom to 8 people, resulting in 3 dead.”

“Australian police have brought murder charges against a woman who served a lunch earlier this year that led to the deaths of three people from suspected death cap mushroom poisoning.”

She survived, that is why the she is under suspicion of poisoning - said she got the mushrooms from a Chinese market...


94 posted on 11/12/2023 1:45:32 PM PST by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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To: Qiviut; Diana in Wisconsin; Pete from Shawnee Mission
A lot of it depends on the rain on any given year, your locale etc but some maters are just prone to splitting. I grew Black Cherry this year which did ok but the Rosella I grew last year, which are also a purple cherry would split if you looked at them and they tasted better than Black Cherry. Chadwick Cherry go absolutely insane for me. Those are what I posted pics of that would split into 3-5 new leaders or shoot out a sucker that was not in the armpit of a branch but straight out of the/a main stalk.

White(mostly) frames galore. The legs were too close to the ground to even try and paint but those are easily done later. The choice was gloss or flat white so I went with the flat. My preference would have been a low gloss. High gloss would reflect the UV rays right back up through the plastic film, giving it UV rays from both sides on/near the frame. From the electric sign business, I know that low gloss white diffuses light. I didn't want to buy a gallon of each to make a semi-gloss or low gloss and one gallon is plenty. Flat white also diffuses light but gets dirty easy.

If the day was longer... This frame would be dangling in my starter holes if I pulled the truck up a foot. As it is, they're in the holes with a bit of lean to keep them steady overnight

Yes, I made a crane out of my truck and an extension ladder plus lots of straps, chains and a come-a-long and yes, my crazy ass climbed up it like that. Good thing I'm a featherweight. The first sign company I worked for actually had something similar that was engineered to lift a certain weight, 4-500 hundred pounds iirc. Can't see it in the pic but there are two, 2 inch straps going from the hooks down low in the front of the truck bed, up to the top of the ladder

The soil is so dry, digging is slow. Not a bad thing being dry since I'm driving my truck on it. Less apt to compact the soil. I really need to get this first one nice and straight because it's the one that all the rest will be measured off of. It was close to sunset so that wasn't going to happen today.

Having to wait for 50+ degrees made for an extra short day. I'll get this one set tomorrow. Then I work two days and then have two days off to get another one or three in. Maybe all 6 of them?

Looking at the picture now, and thinking, the legs are 7 foot and I hadn't fully decided on how deep to set them in the ground; 2-3 feet I was thinking. I think I'll go with 30" aka 2-1/2 feet. That'll put the peak close to 15 foot up and with good sized gable vents, should let the heat flow right out in Summer.

The camera's facing just about East in the second pic and yes, I've got some trees to cut down in that direction. I'll be doing that this Winter and have already scoped them out and none will land on the frame. For the South direction, in the first pic, I'm going to hire my cattle farmer/dozer guy to knock them down in early 2024. I have enough stumps around here.

Til next time,
Crazy Man

95 posted on 11/12/2023 4:31:56 PM PST by Pollard (The US government has US citizens as political prisoners!)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
Nice machine!

I want one

96 posted on 11/12/2023 4:36:14 PM PST by Pollard (The US government has US citizens as political prisoners!)
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To: Pollard

I gotta’ tell you ... looking at your ladder ‘crane’ made my stomach hurt ... imagining you climbing up that thing almost made me dizzy. I do not do heights at all! More power to you to be able to handle it & thus get your project done!

We have 11’ ceilings in part of the house including the kitchen. Mom has this huge, decorative clock hanging way up on the wall. Twice a year, when the time changes, I have to bring in a large step ladder, climb up there & get that clock down so we can change the time/battery. The clock is over a bookcase so I have to go up beside the bookcase & lean off the ladder a bit to reach the clock rather than a straight on approach. Getting it back on the hanger, since I can’t actually see anything, is the worst - I found if I take blue painter’s tape & mark on the wall the bottom & left side closest to the ladder, I have better luck because at least I am in the ‘neighborhood’, not moving the large (& getting heavier by the second) clock all over the wall. In the meanwhile, I am close to hyperventilating because I am so high (for me) up on that ladder. I haven’t changed the time on that stinkin’ clock yet this month, keep finding reasons to procrastinate.


97 posted on 11/12/2023 5:16:06 PM PST by Qiviut (If the genocide was unintentional, they would have pulled the poison vaccines, long ago.)
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To: Qiviut
I've been 80 foot in the air on a sign crane which is basically an extension ladder on a long steel pipe. Had to service a Waffle House sign. That was 20+ years ago in FL on a 98 degree day. I got woozie from the heat on one trip up and had to slink back down.

I definitely wouldn't do that these days and was very focused and cautious today. I'm a little slender guy so my weight was not an issue.

Fireworks misfire 5-6 years ago. Big boom at ground level is not right. I forgot to flinch I guess.

Ok, I'm just crazy.

But it's so much fun.

98 posted on 11/12/2023 6:06:47 PM PST by Pollard (The US government has US citizens as political prisoners!)
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To: Bon of Babble
Bon, I posted this because of the Bonsai like structure of this mushroom that I thought you might appreciate! There are only a few mushrooms that I pick to eat, and since I moved to Kansas, almost none. (I am older and not wandering around in the pine forests and ash groves of my youth!

At some point I may buy some morel spawn and see if I can grow them on the roots of my neighbors elm tree. The roots reach over to my yard!

99 posted on 11/12/2023 7:21:11 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Pollard

By the time you are done you could probably just about live in your high tunnel! (In an emergency you could set up a small tent inside the tunnel and live in it!)


100 posted on 11/12/2023 7:27:22 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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