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1 posted on 11/07/2023 4:03:35 AM PST by MtnClimber
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Allah - The master of deception.

Satan - The father of lies.

2 posted on 11/07/2023 4:03:48 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Manhattan Contrarian ping.


3 posted on 11/07/2023 4:05:08 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To paraphrase William Jefferson Clinton, “It depends on the meaning of the word ‘appropriately.’”


4 posted on 11/07/2023 4:05:34 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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No. Convert, die or be a slave and pay the jizya you filthy infidel.


5 posted on 11/07/2023 4:11:21 AM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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Surely all civilized people would react to these crimes with revulsion and outrage? To the contrary...

To the contrary much of the so-called civilized world is not civilized.

6 posted on 11/07/2023 4:12:20 AM PST by AndyJackson
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Assad protects Christians. In Iraq, Tariq Aziz, Saddam’s Foreign Minister, was catholic. Name one other middle eastern country where a Christian could rise to that level of government.


7 posted on 11/07/2023 4:14:29 AM PST by nonliberal (Z.)
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“Can Anyone Give An Example Of A Muslim Country Treating Members Of Another Religion Appropriately?”

No, you can’t - because to do so is against the teachings of Islam.

For anyone to hold a belief that is not submission to Al-illah is considered violence against Islam and is justification for actual physical violence.


8 posted on 11/07/2023 4:21:03 AM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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Short program. Excellent explanation and graphics.

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2013 Eagle Forum Collegians Leadership Summit

What Every American Needs to Know About the Qur’an: A History of Islam & the United States
by William Federer

https://www.c-span.org/video/?314071-10/what-american-quran

DESCRIPTURE:

What Every American Needs to Know About the Qur’an
William Federer talked about his book, What Every American Needs to Know About the Qur’an: A History of Islam and the United States.

He used slides as he talked about the political and military aspects of the life of Muhammad and how they inform Islam. He also responded to questions from students in the audience at the 20th annual Eagle Forum Collegians Leadership Summit from the Allison Auditorium of the Heritage Foundation in Washington, D.C


9 posted on 11/07/2023 4:25:26 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose GOD is the LORD. (Psalm 33:12))
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The historical problem was that Muslims can go beserk. It doesn’t happen often, but it can happen, as with the Armenians.

One really big problem is that Muslims want dominance. The Europeans are finding out that they are not just another bunch of immigrant workers.

Another really big problem is that Muslims would like to kill off homosexuals and people who are not “of the book”, such as most Chinese and Asian Indians.

A third problem is that the US is getting to the point where their political influence will mean that American Jews might be prohibited by federal law from supporting Israel (or living in it). Israel might be sanctioned by the US government in the manner that Iran and the Russian Federation are.

Growing US Muslim political power could even get to the point where F-35 and Patriot missiles are gifted to Syria for use against Israel.

There is the potential of exported US weapons being sent to Syria and other actors hostile to Israel upon the demand of Muslims in say Canada or Western Europe.


11 posted on 11/07/2023 4:29:28 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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I end many arguments with this point …

Israel has many Muslim Arabs living there in peace

What would happen if Jewish people lived in Gaza?

Usually crickets


12 posted on 11/07/2023 4:30:36 AM PST by janetjanet998 (Legacy media including youtube are the enemy of the people and must die)
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“Appropriately”?

That’s a trick question.

Under islamic law and tradition, it’s “appropriate” to do anything you want to unbelievers (Kafir - aka “infidels”), to the tune of an estimated 750 million dead and 57 states since 623 AD.

It’s what leftists refer to as “By Any Means Necessary.”

Next question…


13 posted on 11/07/2023 4:32:46 AM PST by normbal (normbal. somewhere in socialist occupied America ‘tween MD and TN)
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Turkey was secular for almost a century. Sure enough a true believer eventually came to power and it’s now an Islamic Dictatorship.


14 posted on 11/07/2023 4:33:15 AM PST by Nateman (If Mohammad was not the Anti Christ Mad Moe definitely comes in as a Strong second.)
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Tolerance is one of the reasons the Persian king Cyrus became Cyrus the Great. He freed the Jews from Babylon and allowed them to go home to their hereditary homeland, which was Judea, now called Palestine, aka Israel. That was in the 6th century B.C. Sure seems like the Jews have been there awhile.


15 posted on 11/07/2023 4:44:17 AM PST by Spok (It takes a lot of learning to understand how little we know. (Paraphrasing Thomas Sowell.))
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The term “Appropriately” is relative when dealing with this subject.


18 posted on 11/07/2023 4:57:20 AM PST by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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Muslims see religion as cultural and they don’t want their culture being replaced by another culture.


19 posted on 11/07/2023 5:02:44 AM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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--- "Can Anyone Give An Example Of A Muslim Country Treating Members Of Another Religion Appropriately?"

A wholly specious question. Formulated as if the question had any meaning. It does not.

Islam is supremacist -- in this world. Therefore, all other "members of another religion" are inferior, wrong and to be under the yoke of Islam.

Islam is violent, as are many other cultures, but its violence is ordained within its scripture. Peace, as defined by Islam, is when all accept or are under the yoke of Islam. Any other definition by other "members of another religion" are wrong.

Islam is deceitful, and "Allah is the greatest of deceivers," such that to deceive other "members of another religion" is their right.

The initial question, as cited from the title, hides an incorrect premise.

21 posted on 11/07/2023 5:15:49 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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From around 2011:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens.

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply.

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we are already seeing car burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam.

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues.

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare.

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia law as a weapon, and jizya, the tax placed on infidels.

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some state-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim.

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word.

“Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat,” written by Dr. Peter Hammond


24 posted on 11/07/2023 5:39:23 AM PST by servo1969
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It part of their cult/religion/politics enshrined in the koran, hadiths, and sunnahs.


26 posted on 11/07/2023 5:54:57 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Not since the barbary wars when TJ was forced to create a navy and learn that negotiating with them will never be an option . It’s blatantly obvious this place is more than super infected ,, the psyops they have used on this public , mighty effective I might add. Only time will tell if enough wake up before it’s too late. Remain as sober and vigilant as you can fellow patriots and newly naturalized Americans. The light is being shed on this evil more and more each day.


27 posted on 11/07/2023 6:02:39 AM PST by Callnote (Stacking sats, don’t have time to explain, study it for your self !)
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So can anyone give a single example of a Muslim country treating members of minority religious communities in a manner that we would consider appropriate?

I am sure there were individuals, and Muhammad when a minority in Mecca ("There is no compulsion in religion" Quran 2:256) but once a in power in Medina, the Quran exhorts (with little interpretive context, unlike the Bible): O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk. Sura 5:51 (Yusuf Ali)

They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper. Sura 4:89 (Shakir)

Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.

And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. But if they desist, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. 2:190-192 (Pickthal)

And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers. 2:193 (Pickthal)

Say to the Unbelievers, if (now) they desist (from Unbelief), their past would be forgiven them; but if they persist, the punishment of those before them is already (a matter of warning for them). 8:38 (Yusuf Ali)

And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah. But if they cease, then lo! Allah is Seer of what they do. 8:39 (Pickthal)

Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan. 4:76 (Yusuf Ali)

The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter... 5:33 (Yusuf Ali)

And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,- that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith.

(But the treaties are) not dissolved with those Pagans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided any one against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term: for Allah loveth the righteous.

But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. 9:3-5 (Yusuf Ali)

But (even so), if they repent, establish regular prayers, and practise regular charity,- they are your brethren in Faith: (thus) do We explain the Signs in detail, for those who understand. '

But if they violate their oaths after their covenant, and taunt you for your Faith,- fight ye the chiefs of Unfaith: for their oaths are nothing to them: that thus they may be restrained. 9:11,12 (Yusuf Ali)

O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque...Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 9:28,29 (Yusuf Ali)

O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. 9:73 (Pickthal)

O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him). 9:123 (Pickthal)

Now when ye meet in battle those who disbelieve, then it is smiting of the necks until, when ye have routed them, then making fast of bonds; and afterward either grace or ransom till the war lay down its burdens. That (is the ordinance). And if Allah willed He could have punished them (without you) but (thus it is ordained) that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He rendereth not their actions vain. 47:4 (Pickthal)

28 posted on 11/07/2023 6:02:45 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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