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The decline of the American mall has left just 700 still standing. Soon there may be just 150 left.
Business Insider ^ | 10/12/22 | Tim Levin

Posted on 10/16/2023 6:58:40 PM PDT by DallasBiff

Once-bustling American malls are going bust as shoppers flock to online retailers instead of sprawling, brick-and-mortar locations.

Ten years from now, there will be approximately 150 malls left in the US, Nick Egelanian, president of retail consulting firm SiteWorks, told The Wall Street Journal.

That's down from around 2,500 locations in the 1980s and 700 today, Egelanian said.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: 80s; death; iheartmalls; letsgotothemall; mall; retail; shopping
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To: Secret Agent Man
Everything changes. Atari killed arcades. Amazon helped kill brick and mortar. Home computers and other gadgets took away the time and requirements to walk around a mall. So many things change because of technology and culture. Drive inn movies, etc etc.

However, malls are alive in SE Asia, especially Malaysia and Indonesia. Of note, one of the ways the riff raff is kept out is by a small fee. Same for Sams and Walmart. Always safer at a Sams.

21 posted on 10/16/2023 7:17:46 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

“The quickest way to destroy a mall is to add a public bus stop.”

ain’t that the truth. I believe Mall of American had to put a curfew on kids under 18 because of the problem that caused.


22 posted on 10/16/2023 7:18:00 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: ruiner

That’s great!

Houston area malls are no-go zones, for the most part.


23 posted on 10/16/2023 7:19:20 PM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: DallasBiff

House the illegals and homeless in the abandoned malls. Get them off the sidewalks.


24 posted on 10/16/2023 7:19:53 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: Round Earther

Upscale = Northpark in Dallas. I was going to be cool and just ask if you saw the turtles. Second guess would have been the Galleria in Houston, but I haven’t been there in a couple of decades, so I don’t really know what it is like now.

There’s a good bit of traffic at the various outdoor malls in Fairview/Allen. (The outlet mall where they had the mass killing, the middle class one across the expressway in Fairview, and the one across Stacy from it.)


25 posted on 10/16/2023 7:20:10 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Round Earther

Nice to hear that mall is still active....in a good way :-)


26 posted on 10/16/2023 7:20:21 PM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: Theoria

Wal Marts in NJ are usually in not so nice areas staffed by hood rats. No thanks. .


27 posted on 10/16/2023 7:20:32 PM PDT by Clemenza
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To: PAR35

The Houston Galleria isn’t what it used to be.

I’ll leave it at that.


28 posted on 10/16/2023 7:21:15 PM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: DallasBiff

Yes, indeed, “Peak Mall” was approximately 1983. The movie “Fast Times at Ridgemont High” captures that era when the mall was the place to be, and most malls had similar food courts and collection of stores (Hickory Farms, Foot Locker, Gap, MusicLand etc.).

That era is gone. Amazon.com killed a lot of the specialty retailers while the department stores that anchored the malls were taken out by WalMart and Target and Costco.

I miss the ‘80s, though. It was an optimistic, stable time. Reagan was in the White House. The World War II-vet generation, by then in their mid-late 50s/early 60s was still pretty much running the country. Later when the baby boomers like Bill Clinton came in in the ‘90s, that the country really started to go to hell.


29 posted on 10/16/2023 7:22:33 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: Secret Agent Man

I have no hesitation in saying I always loved malls. I liked everything including the regulation of other people to behave properly and the protection from bad weather.

As a Luddite I hate choosing something online that turns out wrong or defective or purposely misrepresented——and there are stories now that returns on Amazone may be restricted or eliminated. So wear those shoes two inches too tight or the scratchy clothes that looked good online.


30 posted on 10/16/2023 7:24:09 PM PDT by frank ballenger (“My job is to inform, not to convince.” St. Bernadette Soubirous )
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To: MNDude

Bus stops killed malls the way enlarged prostates killed movie theaters.


31 posted on 10/16/2023 7:24:41 PM PDT by The Duke (Why do I think that the cynicism gene is going to be prevalent in future generations?)
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To: DallasBiff

the way to save the mall is to have memberships like Costco. most people don’t shop at them anymore because the experience is not a good one. to many gang members with no money walk around in the malls. a membership would keep out a lot of the troublemakers.


32 posted on 10/16/2023 7:25:38 PM PDT by PCPOET7 (`)
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To: janetjanet998

Let me guess: more children of Obeyme.


33 posted on 10/16/2023 7:26:12 PM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: Steely Tom

Spot on Tom


34 posted on 10/16/2023 7:26:30 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: PCPOET7

That’s a smart idea. I like that.


35 posted on 10/16/2023 7:26:35 PM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: PAR35

Apple has been careful about the expansion of their retail stores, and limited to upscale urban areas.

The customers have to have the cash and the geography has to have the density.

Even with that, all Apple products can be bought online.

However, the Apple Store provides great service. I buy my Apple products online, but I take the kids to the Apple Store to get MacBooks, iPads and iPhones.

Typically, it’s an expensive trip.


36 posted on 10/16/2023 7:27:09 PM PDT by Round Earther
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To: DallasBiff

It’s not America but the Toronto area has about half a dozen big malls. They just lost recently Nordstrom as an anchor store in a few of them but other than the general internet onslaught they still seem to be doing ok. The few I’ve been in recently seem to almost full of stores and the security problem the US has hasn’t hit here as far as I can tell. Probably the most successful is called Yorkdale which has a long history going back to when it opened in the mid 1960s. It is now quite high end having tiffany and cartier etc. Last time I was there it was fairly crowded and bustling.


37 posted on 10/16/2023 7:27:14 PM PDT by xp38
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To: PAR35

I told one of my kids that back when I was in high school, we would go to the mall to hang out and meet girls, they all looked at me like I was nuts.


38 posted on 10/16/2023 7:29:43 PM PDT by Round Earther
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To: ruiner; Jane Long

The Stanford Mall in Palo Alto, CA is always packed. And there is CONSTANT renovation going on. Right now, there’s a big expansion happening and massive remodeling of lots of stored.

It’s amazing how often and how drastically malls get remodeled and reorganized, stores go and come, tastes change. The Apple store there is close to the Tesla store which is close to the Neiman Marcus store.

I hardly ever get there any more since I’m opening so much time in Idaho now.


39 posted on 10/16/2023 7:35:08 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: DallasBiff

We have mini malls now with maybe 10 stores. I love our little local malls. In the early 70s, I’d drive miles to the big mall for Christmas Shopping. Things have changed and I think...for the better.


40 posted on 10/16/2023 7:37:05 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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