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The Coal Truth: Will the Coming Generation of Electric Cars Just Be Coal-Burners, Once Removed?
Scientific American ^ | 5/4/2020 | Scientific American

Posted on 08/27/2023 10:00:19 AM PDT by DallasBiff

Some analysts expect that existing grid capacity may be enough to power U.S. electric cars in the near future, yet they do not rule out the possibility of new coal or nuclear plants coming on line if renewable energy sources are not developed.

Dear EarthTalk: Isn’t the interest in electric cars and plug-in hybrids going to spur increased reliance on coal as a power source? And is that really any better than gasoline/oil in terms of environmental impact? —Graham Rankin, via e-mail

It’s true that the advent of electric cars is not necessarily a boon for the environment if it means simply trading our reliance on one fossil fuel—oil, from which gasoline is distilled—for an even dirtier one: coal, which is burned to create electricity.

(Excerpt) Read more at scientificamerican.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: automotive; coal; electric; energy; ev; nuclear
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I went through the big freeze in Texas in Feb. 2021, the wind mills froze up, and solar was useless.

Get mad at me but Vivek Ramaswamy was correct, when he stated in the debate, where he stated that fossil fuels are necessary for a prosperity society.

1 posted on 08/27/2023 10:00:19 AM PDT by DallasBiff
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To: DallasBiff

Pretty much

People like Tesla Humper and the fake news will tell you it’s wonderful even though it’s clearly *worse*


2 posted on 08/27/2023 10:02:46 AM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: DallasBiff

“Scientific” American?

Nothing but political propaganda. This whole piece is riddled with “hopeful” statements that we may make advances in the future, some things may become possible, other things are “within the realm of the possible” and basically, gee whiz, wouldn’t it be swell if this all works out for the best?

There is no science here.


3 posted on 08/27/2023 10:04:35 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (They say "Our Democracy" but they mean Cosa Nostra.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

SA has long been neither Scientific nor American.


4 posted on 08/27/2023 10:06:09 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: DallasBiff

Everything will be fine after they knock the worlds’ population back down to 500,000,000. That’ll be around one million people serving each deserving oligarch.


5 posted on 08/27/2023 10:13:35 AM PDT by Dogbert41 (“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God” -Matthew 5:9)
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To: DallasBiff

Green energy globalist elites with their absurd policies are promoting poverty, hunger and disease. They hate America, its freedoms and liberties and Americans.


6 posted on 08/27/2023 10:19:00 AM PDT by allendale
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To: DallasBiff

Technology to burn coal with minimal polluting effects should be a priority in energy research. We have plenty of the stuff.

And nuclear must be an important part of the mix, even if it does scare liberal snowflakes.


7 posted on 08/27/2023 10:27:00 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

SA was hijacked by leftist hacks years ago. They were targeted around the same time the Smithsonian Institute was. Now they are both gone.


8 posted on 08/27/2023 10:30:30 AM PDT by gibsonguy ( )
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To: Dogbert41
Everything will be fine after they knock the worlds’ population back down to 500,000,000. That’ll be around one million people serving each deserving oligarch

You will probably think I'm crazy for thinking this, but if they achieve their goal, wouldn't rabies be rampant?

How many vets would there be in a population of 500,000,000 worldwide?

9 posted on 08/27/2023 10:30:35 AM PDT by DallasBiff (Apology not accepted.la is not the sharpest knife in the drawer)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I did not like the inclusion of nuclear in non-renewables. Nuclear is one of the cleaner sources of base power (when its too cold for wind and too dark for solar)


10 posted on 08/27/2023 10:30:59 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (retired aerospace engineer and CSP who also taught)
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To: ClearCase_guy

There is the nuclear option, you know. Not in the political sense, but in the field of power generation. Nuclear power plants have come a LONG way from Chernobyl, or Three Mile Island, or even Fukushima. The Small Modular Nuclear Reactor designs have overcome virtually every objection of your grandfather’s nuclear reactors, in that they do not go into “China syndrome”, or explode spewing radioactivity in the atmosphere, or have huge quantities of “spent” uranium fuel rods accumulating over time.

But these “green” environmentalists are as superstitious as a bunch of cats, and they cannot be talked into taking a reasonable approach to that resumption of use of nuclear power for generation of electricity.


11 posted on 08/27/2023 10:31:05 AM PDT by alloysteel (Take back the rainbow. Its use by LGBTQ is cultural misappropriation.)
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To: DallasBiff

They already are, and pseudo-Scientific American knows this well. The majority of power charging those electric cars is coming from coal. Period.


12 posted on 08/27/2023 10:41:18 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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.....The Coal Truth: Will the Coming Generation of Electric Cars Just Be Coal-Burners, Once Removed?.....

YES!!!!

EVs are unnecessary, dangerous, and WAY too expensive. They should be banned. Politicians who want to require them, and/or to ban meat and dairy should also be banned from office forever!!!!


13 posted on 08/27/2023 10:49:40 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: DallasBiff

Yes.


14 posted on 08/27/2023 10:58:30 AM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) My dog Sam eats purple flowers.)
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To: KC_for_Freedom
I did not like the inclusion of nuclear in non-renewables. Nuclear is one of the cleaner sources of base power (when its too cold for wind and too dark for solar)

Agreed. Nuclear and hydro are about as clean as it gets while also providing steady power.

15 posted on 08/27/2023 11:00:17 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: DallasBiff

Yes, because it’s just not possible at this time to produce enough power from the Sun or wind. Battery technology is not able to solve the problem of the need for power regardless of the weather.

But the politicians are messing things up royally. They are fanatical about forcing us to drive EVs, and at the same time are destroying the supply of “fossil” fuels.

If the politicians are allowed to have their way, we are in for impossibly high energy costs and severe limitations on our ability to go places. (But the ruling elite will go to climate conferences in their multiple limousines and private jets.)


16 posted on 08/27/2023 11:06:53 AM PDT by I want the USA back (If genitals don't define gender, how does removing them affirm it? )
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To: Tell It Right

Oopsie! The climate change cult wants to get rid of hydroelectric because the reservoirs are a source of methane emissions. I kid not.


17 posted on 08/27/2023 11:15:46 AM PDT by packagingguy
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To: DallasBiff

First EV’s are incredibly inefficient. Due to battery and power losses. 2nd they are chemical polluters. And before long they will be chemical polluters on a grand scale.


18 posted on 08/27/2023 11:16:08 AM PDT by Revel
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To: DallasBiff

In my opinion emissions shot out of a massive cannon into the atmosphere are 10X worse than the same amount of emissions dispersed out of millions of tailpipes on roads.


19 posted on 08/27/2023 11:22:47 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: DallasBiff

Electric cars urn unicorn farts.

Morons.


20 posted on 08/27/2023 11:56:04 AM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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