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OceanGate CEO Called Safety 'A Waste,' Suit Claimed Titan Sub Was Not Tested Properly
JALOPNIK ^ | 6/21 | Collin Woodard

Posted on 06/21/2023 6:41:03 PM PDT by nickcarraway

A submersible carrying tourists to look at the remains of the Titanic went missing on Sunday, and the odds of anyone onboard surviving grow lower by the day. It’s also been reported that the CEO of OceanGate Expeditions, the company behind the excursion, is onboard. And the more information that comes out, the less surprising it is that we’ve ended up in this situation.

Metro reports that last year, when asked about the safety of the Titan submersible, Stockton Rush, OceanGate’s CEO, said, “You know, there’s a limit. At some point safety just is pure waste. I mean if you just want to be safe, don’t get out of bed. Don’t get in your car. Don’t do anything. At some point, you’re going to take some risk, and it really is a risk/reward question. I think I can do this just as safely by breaking the rules.”

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According to the report, OceanGate fired David Lochridge when he questioned how safe the Titan was and later sued him after he filed a whistleblower complaint with the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, claiming he violated the terms of his contract. Lochridge then countersued, claiming he was wrongfully terminated. In the suit, he said he pushed back against launching the Titan without doing “non-destructive testing to prove its integrity.”

“The paying passengers would not be aware, and would not be informed, of this experimental design, the lack of non-destructive testing of the hull, or that hazardous flammable materials were being used within the submersible,” Lochridge said in his suit.

From the CBS story:

The Titan relied on carbon fiber for a hull that would carry passengers as deep as 4,000 meters, a depth that Lochridge claimed in the court filing had never been reached in a carbon fiber-constructed sub. According to his claim, he learned the vessel was built to withstand a certified pressure of 1,300 meters, although OceanGate planned to take passengers to 4,000 meters. Titan relied on carbon fiber for a hull that would carry passengers as deep as 4,000 meters, a depth that Lochridge claimed in the court filing had never been reached in a carbon fiber-constructed sub. According to his claim, he learned the vessel was built to withstand a certified pressure of 1,300 meters, although OceanGate planned to take passengers to 4,000 meters.

He also said that even though the Titan was made out of carbon fiber, no carbon fiber sub had ever gone that deep before.

If these claims are true, they paint a pretty clear picture of a CEO who didn’t care about safety and was happy to risk other people’s lives to make a little money.


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KEYWORDS: canada; donateforjim; implosion; oceangateexpeditions; titanic
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To: nickcarraway

Explode = KABOOM!

Implode = MOOBAK?


41 posted on 06/21/2023 7:05:09 PM PDT by dakine
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To: nickcarraway

Wait! What was the key control to restart the oxygen again?
I think it was Attack,down,down,up,Fire,back,back

No wait...you also have to hold the green button while doing that


42 posted on 06/21/2023 7:05:15 PM PDT by Zack Attack
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To: TexasGator

3800m is probably about 12,500 feet.

Yep, it is. :)


43 posted on 06/21/2023 7:05:34 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: nickcarraway

44 posted on 06/21/2023 7:08:18 PM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh (wake me up when somebody tells the truth)
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To: nickcarraway

If I was on the sub, the first thing I’d do is increase the air supply by 20% by offing this guy.


45 posted on 06/21/2023 7:08:53 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: TexasGator

He was an expert on surface naval construction and the Titanic. He was not a subject matter expert in submarine vehicle construction - and several such SMEs plus those who are in the carbon fiber fabrication industry have commented about the bad layup technique chosen.


46 posted on 06/21/2023 7:09:27 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: nickcarraway

... in the dark, and waiting for your oxygen to run out. Not the best way to go.


47 posted on 06/21/2023 7:09:29 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: tomkat

That would have been the most merciful outcome.


48 posted on 06/21/2023 7:09:52 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: nickcarraway

This will get very complicated before it’s over.


49 posted on 06/21/2023 7:10:55 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: RckyRaCoCo
I was thinking of that, but as literary references go, I'd prefer The Adventure of the Bruce-Partington Plans, if anyone remembers that.
50 posted on 06/21/2023 7:11:22 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Jamestown1630

More complicated that the submarine itself.


51 posted on 06/21/2023 7:11:57 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: bigdaddy45

“... in the dark, and waiting for your oxygen to run out. Not the best way to go.”

Not to mention the sub has no toilet.


52 posted on 06/21/2023 7:12:54 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: tomkat

“I’d bet that the hull breached on Day 1.”

Agreed, perhaps they didn’t even make it to their destination. If the capsule was crushed they may find it on the bottom near the Titanic, however if the ballast mechanism was compromised and just enough air to keep it from hitting bottom it may well be carried away on the North Atlantic currents never to be found.

It is said there is a fine line between guts and stupidity.


53 posted on 06/21/2023 7:13:46 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute. )
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To: bigdaddy45

There are some questions about the air handling system on board the vessel. And they didn’t have much water with them, so if they drank it all on the first day...


54 posted on 06/21/2023 7:14:51 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Zack Attack

Not to mention:

batteries
passwords
OS upgrade
blue screen of death

or simply ... game over


55 posted on 06/21/2023 7:16:24 PM PDT by farmguy ( )
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To: Jonty30

Wasn’t he in the sub for this trip?


56 posted on 06/21/2023 7:17:51 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: Spktyr

“He was an expert on surface naval construction and the Titanic”

I referred to him as a Titanic expert.

OTOH, as a veteran of over 35 deep sea dives to the Titanic he should have noticed something.


57 posted on 06/21/2023 7:18:13 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Reno89519
The hybrid filament wound carbon fiber cylinder with bonded titanium closures design concept is fundamentally a very bad design concept

Flaws and residual stresses in the carbon shell degrade the buckling/collapse margins and the thick walls do not transfer loads well to the Titanium closures. The adhesive bonded joint configuration is really hard to execute without bond line defects such as voids, delaminations, porosity, bond line thickness variations, resin starved areas and other defects. Any misalignment of the bonded titanium end caps will really meet up the loads in the vessel. It is a real hard joint to get right

58 posted on 06/21/2023 7:19:11 PM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: cableguymn

Yes, apparently. That wasn’t something I was aware of at the time of my first comment in this thread.

I can’t imagine the irony of firing your safety guy and then dying on your maiden voyage to the bottom of the sea.


59 posted on 06/21/2023 7:20:30 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: nickcarraway

“Stockton Rush, OceanGate’s CEO, said, “You know, there’s a limit. At some point safety just is pure waste. I mean if you just want to be safe, don’t get out of bed. Don’t get in your car. Don’t do anything. At some point, you’re going to take some risk, and it really is a risk/reward question.

I think I can do this just as safely by breaking the rules.”

Apparently not.


60 posted on 06/21/2023 7:21:56 PM PDT by plain talk
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