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1 posted on 06/19/2023 5:08:38 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

Let’s you and him fight.


2 posted on 06/19/2023 5:08:50 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber; Red Badger; thinden; RitaOK; bitt

“Most Americans sympathize with Ukraine and were and are willing to supply it with defensive weapons to repel Russian aggression.”

Well, there’s a bare-assed lie.
The only large support for UKR is found among politicos in Washington DC and the Legacy Media.
They are the only folks “making book” on UKR.
Now, ask the super majority of Americans (fly-over country) if they support Zelenskyy (because that’s the real recipient of military largess).


3 posted on 06/19/2023 5:25:49 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Cracker...)
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>>Ukraine’s latest counteroffensive could, in fact, get close to achieving that goal of reclaiming much of the ground taken after February 2022.

I love VDH but do not think his intel any better than anyone else’s in the public on this, and I remain steadfast to my initial take on the whole mess. I said this almost a year and a half ago, and it still applies.

The Russians are lying to us.
The Ukrainians are lying to us.
The EU is lying to us.
The Brits are lying to us.
The US government is darn sure lying to us.

Is war, the first casualty is the truth.


4 posted on 06/19/2023 5:26:05 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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But apparently, the war’s aims have now shifted to reestablishing the 2013 Ukrainian-Russian border.

They haven't -- Crimea is a bargaining chip to give Putin a "win" if Ukraine takes back the Donbas soon

6 posted on 06/19/2023 5:40:55 AM PDT by Cronos
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“The illegal efforts of Ukrainians to lobby for arms shipments will prove counter-productive.”

I’m not sure “illegal” is a correct adjective.


8 posted on 06/19/2023 5:54:53 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (End tax slavery)
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https://www.unian.info/politics/1043394-minsk-agreement-full-text-in-english.html


10 posted on 06/19/2023 6:12:36 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (End tax slavery)
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To: MtnClimber

armistice

plebiscites


11 posted on 06/19/2023 6:18:44 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (End tax slavery)
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There never needed to be a war. The Minsk agreements were signed but the West just used them as a ruse to delay to build up Ukraine’s military to fight the Russians. Angela Merkel admitted it.

The motivation to continue the war is coming from all the corrupt politicians in America who have become fabulously wealthy from kickbacks of U.S. dollars flooding into Ukraine.

It is also coming from the CIA and the DOD who established biological weapons factories in Ukraine in violation of all international laws and for which those responsible should hang, for crimes against humanity, as was done in Nuremberg, Germany, after WWII.


15 posted on 06/19/2023 8:30:59 AM PDT by Gnome1949
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VDH ping


16 posted on 06/19/2023 8:34:40 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber
"Ukraine’s latest counteroffensive could, in fact, get close to achieving that goal of reclaiming much of the ground taken after February 2022."

They say ignorance is bliss. This buy must be pretty blissful.....

17 posted on 06/19/2023 8:56:28 AM PDT by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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