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To: MtnClimber

>>Ukraine’s latest counteroffensive could, in fact, get close to achieving that goal of reclaiming much of the ground taken after February 2022.

I love VDH but do not think his intel any better than anyone else’s in the public on this, and I remain steadfast to my initial take on the whole mess. I said this almost a year and a half ago, and it still applies.

The Russians are lying to us.
The Ukrainians are lying to us.
The EU is lying to us.
The Brits are lying to us.
The US government is darn sure lying to us.

Is war, the first casualty is the truth.


4 posted on 06/19/2023 5:26:05 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster
Is war, the first casualty is the truth.

You are spot on. That's why one needs to ferret out known facts to get to the truth.

Here are a few facts.....
-Russia now controls 20% of the former Ukeland
-Russia has not collapsed from the mother of all sanctions while we in the West have been wounded from same
-Zelensky starts and ends his day begging for money and equipment (why would he do that if he is winning?)

Lies are lies, and facts normally tell the truth. Separating the wheat from the chaff helps in sorting out the truth.

9 posted on 06/19/2023 6:02:06 AM PDT by icclearly
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