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1 posted on 05/30/2023 1:54:16 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Most CPR students don’t realize to be effective you have to crack the ribs. They hear ribs cracking and they think they are doing something wrong. And the survival rate is less than 10%.


2 posted on 05/30/2023 1:59:58 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I was going to start procrastinating this year, I just haven't got around to it.)
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can leave many patients with lasting physical and cognitive impairments

Why take this chance? Just let the person die.

3 posted on 05/30/2023 2:00:43 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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New guidance for trained Good Samaritans says to Disco Pump and don’t do the Rescue Breathing.

Pick someone out of the crowd to call 911 first, BEFORE you start.

If heart is stopped, any little bit may help.
If they’re gone already , it won’t hurt.


4 posted on 05/30/2023 2:00:44 PM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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CPR doesn’t require mouth-to-mouth anymore. I MIGHT read the rest of the article though.

Probably says stuff like “People that lived after getting CPR showed signs of increased heart problems, and instead of their usual recreational sports like tennis and skiing were resigned to a life of darts and shuffle board. They would have been better just left to die.”


5 posted on 05/30/2023 2:01:39 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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The timing of such a piece isn't coincidental. Doctors don't want to treat those afflicted by the Jim Jones Jab who have gone into cardiac arrest.

Much easier for "bio-ethicists" to sell the point to leave the patients to the morticians.

7 posted on 05/30/2023 2:04:08 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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Just keep defibrilators everywhere you can. Most units sell for nearly $3000, but Philips just released a great home unit for only $1500. Must-have for any office, homeschool, small biz.

Philips HeartStart Home AED Defibrillator with Slim Carry Case

My wife bought this model for our office with 12 employees.

8 posted on 05/30/2023 2:05:26 PM PDT by montag813
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“but it can leave many patients with lasting physical and cognitive impairments”

Yeah, but they ain’t dead.


10 posted on 05/30/2023 2:07:36 PM PDT by Boogieman
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Just let them die and reduce the surplus population.


14 posted on 05/30/2023 2:16:35 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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I thought that mouth to mouth was already deemed not effective in CPR.

With that being said, three years ago in my senior softball league, a pitcher on one team collapsed on the mound when his heart just stopped beating.

Fortunately there were retired fire fighters on site from both teams that performed chest compression on him and kept him alive till the EMS arrived.

Turns out, the guy never had any cardiac events in his life but this was a genetic anomaly where his heart just stopped beating for no reason at all........Apparently his sister did die 30 years prior from the same condition.

17 posted on 05/30/2023 2:25:58 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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"The bad experiences far outnumber the good ones"

????????

Hmmmm....Let's see. Doing nothing could be a very, very bad experience for the families and friends of the person not breathing.

I remember a CPR training where the trainer was a real stickler for exact phraseology. There was a life-size manikin, and the trainer insisted we use this language upon assisting the person not breathing: "Hello, I've been trained and I'm here to help you." When it was my turn to demonstrate what I had learned, I approached the manikin and stated: "Hi, I'm breathing and you're not." Even my boss laughed at that one. The trainer, not so much.

21 posted on 05/30/2023 2:28:57 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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There’s a lot of unpleasant side effects, assuming you survive. A doctor friend of mine had DNR tattooed on his chest. He’s weighed both sides and made his choice.


27 posted on 05/30/2023 2:41:27 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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CPR doesn’t cause brain damage.

Prolonged cerebral hypoxia causes brain damage, and CPR circulation is nothing like natural circulation, or people would wake up during compressions.

Now let us talk about defibrillation and flat lines.


28 posted on 05/30/2023 2:43:42 PM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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A great secret is that chest compression is far more useful, as there is likely still a lot of oxygen in the blood, it just needs to be moved around.


30 posted on 05/30/2023 2:47:46 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All he had was a handgun. Why did you think that was a threat?" --Rittenhouse Prosecutor)
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If they’re done with proper vigor, chest compressions can break ribs, especially in the elderly or anyone affected with osteoporosis.


33 posted on 05/30/2023 2:58:57 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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There is an extremely low chance of saving anyone with CPR according to drs - just went thru this with my elderly parents when they walk them thru their desires vis-a-vis what they want to happen and not happen in case in the ambulance shows up in an emergency - I was surprised the dr said it worked in so few cases, had always assumed the survival rate was much higher than single digits - and my daughter (works in a nursing home) watched a ~225lb burly paramedic performing cpr on a 101 year old woman who probably weighed 85lbs - literally broke almost every one of her ribs, and then she died anyway - lesson: let people know what you want to happen before its to late to make a decision.


37 posted on 05/30/2023 3:36:43 PM PDT by qwerty1234
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Do you see a story like this as propaganda?


45 posted on 05/30/2023 4:54:36 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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I heard this from the Obama ghouls at the VA when they were pestering my dad to sign a DNR. He told them to GTFOOH and don’t come back, looked like they were gut-shot.


49 posted on 05/30/2023 5:40:29 PM PDT by Kickaha (See the glory...of the royal scam )
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https://www.wlsam.com/2023/05/31/bystander-cpr-can-literally-double-or-triple-your-survival-critical-care-nurse-teri-campbell-on-the-importance-of-cpr/

‘Bystander CPR can literally double or triple your survival’ – Critical care nurse Teri Campbell on the importance of CPR

52 posted on 05/31/2023 9:15:17 AM PDT by Paul46360 (What??ME worry?)
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