Posted on 04/11/2023 9:34:56 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
Indigenous peoples as far north as Wyoming and Idaho may have begun to care for horses by the first half of the 17th Century, according to a new study by researchers from 15 countries and multiple Native American groups.
A team of international researchers has dug into archaeological records, DNA evidence and Indigenous oral traditions to paint what might be the most exhaustive history of early horses in North America to date. The group's findings show that these beasts of burden may have spread throughout the American West much faster and earlier than many European accounts have suggested...
To tell the stories of horses in the West, the team closely examined about two dozen sets of animal remains found at sites ranging from New Mexico to Kansas and Idaho. The researchers come from 15 countries and multiple Native American groups, including the Lakota, Comanche and Pawnee nations...
For many of the scientists involved, the research holds deep personal significance, added Taylor, who grew up in Montana where his grandfather was a rancher...
The researchers drew on archaeozoology, radiocarbon dating, DNA sequencing and other tools to unearth how and when horses first arrived in various regions of today's United States. Based on the team's calculations, Indigenous communities were likely riding and raising horses as far north as Idaho and Wyoming by at least the first half of the 17th Century -- as much as a century before records from Europeans had suggested.
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Their feet!
They walked.
Lots of details about pre-horse indian culture in the book, 'Autobiography of Red Cloud: War Leader of the Oglalas.'
Horses and European firearms resulted it a more war-like culture between tribes. Old allies became rivals and even enemies.
Stealing horses from neighboring tribes was considered honorable and a rite of passage for young warriors.
What did Indians get around on before we brought over horses?
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In the non snow seasons, they had special shoes made of woven branches that fit onto the backs of small dogs. Then the dogs would run them around.
Snow times, they used skis and had the dogs, or in some areas, beavers, tow them around.
You just read that here on the internet so you know it must be true. :)
I don’t think so. My recollection is that “horses” migrated ages ago at somewhere around the Mesochippus(?) stage. That was very, very long ago, probably before Homo sapiens existed.
Very prominent. But I cannot say “majority”.
If you mean now, then that can be said about almost any, as many generations passed and contain great breeds by stock.
Brilliant to note. Libs hate tobacco and love Indians so much, that should be used every time they whine about either.
Darley Arabian. Not shocking.
Through his super great-great-grandson racer and stallion, ECLIPSE.
This is partly just by noting almost all TBs are tail-male from Eclipse.
Add the other many many horses over many generations and Eclipse is the one.
There was a TV show on some guy that lived on the Olympic Peninsula in WA state. Lived in the woods, walked everywhere (almost always barefoot). A real hermit.
His nephew or somebody was getting married in California. The camera man asked him how he was getting down there.
“What do you mean? I'll walk of course. That's what I do everyday here - I'll just point south instead.”
The wedding was months off. More research on the guy and it sounds like he does just walk everywhere and lives that lifestyle. But - he did buy one or two properties around the western USA and has/will develop them into off-grid learning centers or something.
HA! Found his website - he does exercise camps using stuff from nature.
https://mickdodge.com/the-old-strength-farm-and-the-game-of-olding/
Point is as you go down the years the horses ancestors grow exponentially. So chances are the great horses of the past are going to be in the background of current stars.
This is definitely true when you expand beyond the silly obsession with tail-male (“all THs descend from 3 stallions”)and see how so many horses contribute to one horse now. Sometimes multiple times (inbreeding, or linebreeding).
Link to the paper: Early dispersal of domestic horses into the Great Plains and northern Rockies
“(because no White man ever saw an Indian on horseback until settlers moved into central Texas in the early 1800s”
Con respecto, senor-that is somewhat inaccurate-my ancestors first made their way from Northern Mexico to what is now Texas and NM in the late 1700’s-they were originally from Spain-Basques from the Pyrenees. They wanted to be far away from the Spanish govt, so they came North with livestock like sheep and goats-and they had horses to ride and donkeys to carry packs. The Comanches and Apaches in the areas they settled also had horses long enough to be riding and selectively breeding them for speed, endurance, same as those Spanish settlers did...
You should write for Babylon bee.
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